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Dev Diary for April 23

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We're back with another update! This time we have a mix of content, including:

  • Sampy talking about SQL optimization using indexed views
  • Erik covering a relatively simple, but useful, web control and explaining a bit about how we build our UI components as he goes (and you can get the controls he demos right from here)
  • Sampy showing off the wiki, in a unskinned but functional state (like any good demo, we even included a surprise error!)
  • Me demoing nothing and generally blathering on in a managerial way

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  • BasBas It finds lightbulbs.
    This should probably have been asked last week when you guys were discussing Live ID signins, but...

    When all the new sites are live, will we be able to use the same Live ID to sign into all of them? I occasionally want to comment on on10, but then I realise that I'm not signed in and I forgot what kind of account I created, so I either have to dig up that info, create a new account, or just forget about commenting altogether.

    I have an identity here, and it's coupled to my Live ID. Will I be able to just keep that by logging in to On10 with the same Live ID?
  • Duncan MackenzieDuncanma "yeah that's awful close, but that's not why I'm so hard done by"
    @Bas

    Yes, but not immediately. We'll be merging the user databases into a single set, but we'll launch with C9 still on its own until we've enabled Live ID sign on to 10 and Mix. I'm not sure of an exact timeline on that, but your vision of a single-sign-on is definitely what we're heading towards.
  • professor Sampy Smiley, writing controls in the "morning", LOL nice stuff guys really nice, keep going

    I was writing a "message box" (it was part of a bigger control) too exactly like that, only thats on a IFRAME dinamically populated on the client, I wanted to hide the message after X seconds too but I tought what if in the mean time somebody triggers again that message... in short I didn't write that part of code to hide it after X sec I've just put a "x" to close it Smiley
  • Erik PorterHuman​Compiler Now with more apps
    Ion Todirel wrote:
    professor Sampy , writing controls in the "morning", LOL nice stuff guys really nice, keep going

    I was writing a "message box" (it was part of a bigger control) too exactly like that, only thats on a IFRAME dinamically populated on the client, I wanted to hide the message after X seconds too but I tought what if in the mean time somebody triggers again that message... in short I didn't write that part of code to hide it after X sec I've just put a "x" to close it


    Good point on if it's invoked before the hideAfter period.  I hadn't thought about that (mostly because that scenario doesn't happen in our sites, but it's good to think about).  I was going to implement a close button and only show it when the hideAfter is set, but ran out of time.
  • BasBas It finds lightbulbs.
    Duncanma wrote:
    @Bas

    Yes, but not immediately. We'll be merging the user databases into a single set, but we'll launch with C9 still on its own until we've enabled Live ID sign on to 10 and Mix. I'm not sure of an exact timeline on that, but your vision of a single-sign-on is definitely what we're heading towards.


    Thanks Duncan. I can't wait for that to happen, I'm sick of making different accounts for every site I visit.

    Anyway, I still didn't get around to watching the video, but I just thought of another feature request/suggestion: a video notifier.

    Let's say I want to know something about a certain subject. For instance, like ericrempel, I'm curious as to how Mesh will handle concurrency. Now, Charles mentions that there's an upcoming Going Deep video on FeedSync,  that'll explain how some of this will happen. However, by the time it goes online, I may have forgotten that this video is going to answer some questions I've been wondering about.

    What if I could tell C9 that I want to watch this, so that it'll warn me when it comes up? For instance, I could select 'Going Deep' as a show, and 'FeedSync' as a keyword. Maybe I could add a little reminder for myself saying "This video will explain concurrency in feedsync". Now, when Charles posts the video, my video notifier will tell me that there's a new video available that I want to watch (and why I wanted to watch it).

    It'd be sort of like that Media Center feature where you can tell Media Center to automatically record any movies with a certain actor, or automatically record new episodes of some show regardless of what channel or time they air on.

    I'd figure that it'd be relatively easy to implement this using just the RSS feed for videos. You could basically search the title, description and tags for any keywords you entered, and if they match, notify the user of a new matching video.

    Maybe something to think about, when you guys are bored. Tongue Out
  • Sven GrootSven Groot Don't worry... I'm a doctor.
    No comments in the source code? Tongue Out
  • BasBas It finds lightbulbs.
    That discussion fork-off thing is pretty sweet, just like the tagging stuff. Little features like this make the site, IMHO.
  • Erik PorterHuman​Compiler Now with more apps
    Bas wrote:
    Maybe something to think about, when you guys are bored.


    I like the idea, but yah, we never have time to be bored.  Tongue Out  Something else we want to do at some point would help for some of what you're talking about.  Basically, we'd like to just let you tell us all the tags you're interested in and you'll have "your" homepage that'll show only content tagged with the tags you selected.
  • Erik PorterHuman​Compiler Now with more apps
    Bas wrote:
    That discussion fork-off thing is pretty sweet, just like the tagging stuff. Little features like this make the site, IMHO.


    Thanks, glad you like.  These new features only took a few days to add.  Now that we've got the core platform there, new features will fly out of us a lot faster than in the past.
  • Erik PorterHuman​Compiler Now with more apps
    Sven Groot wrote:
    No comments in the source code?


    Was there code in there that wasn't descriptive enough?  I'm open to suggestions if there was some confusion.  Smiley

    We're a small team.  We're 3 devs (going to be 4 pretty soon).  If I don't understand how a piece of code works I walk next door or down the hall to get a better answer than any comment could ever do for me.

    We will eventually be releasing the source code for our entire platform on CodePlex (this first sample was a really small independent piece I decided to extract from the platform [at 3 AM as usual and shipped it the next day]).  We will give it away with not many comments, no documentation and no setups or instructions.  We will not promise any sort of support.  The code will be yours to do with what you want.

    The way we see it, there's more value in giving away the source code as is with no extra work on our end (other than some code cleanup before shipping it out) and letting you all figure out it and hack away at it and probably help each other figure it out than to not release it at all because we don't have the time or resources to commit to it.

    So back to my original point...comments will never be a focus for us.  We're a small team.  Smiley
  • What happened to the whole once a week thing?
  • prencher wrote:
    What happened to the whole once a week thing?
    yea!
  • Bugged? Says 7 episodes for the show, but only 6 are visible.

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