Comment Feed for Channel 9 - Answering Niners Questions about Jelly Bean—The Kinect Drivable Lounge Chair http://ak.channel9.msdn.com/ch9/F436/192D5791-8AA6-4340-A9A7-9ED9013FF436/NinersQuestionsKinectLoungeChair_100_ch9.jpg Channel 9 - Answering Niners Questions about Jelly Bean—The Kinect Drivable Lounge Chair In this video, Clint and Dan answer your questions about Jelly Bean—The Kinect Drivable Lounge Chair. They cover a number of topics, including how they decided on the current control scheme, how much calibration was required, and how much code they wrote on top of the SDK. en Wed, 22 May 2013 12:08:35 GMT Wed, 22 May 2013 12:08:35 GMT Rev9 Re: Answering Niners Questions about Jelly Bean—The Kinect Drivable Lounge Chair I'd like to see how well it controls now that Clint has (I'm assuming) mounted the wheels the right way.

posted by dentaku

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/TechWithTina/Answering-Niners-Questions-about-Jelly-BeanThe-Kinect-Drivable-Lounge-Chair#c634403116430000000 Fri, 06 May 2011 20:47:23 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/TechWithTina/Answering-Niners-Questions-about-Jelly-BeanThe-Kinect-Drivable-Lounge-Chair#c634403116430000000 dentaku Re: Answering Niners Questions about Jelly Bean—The Kinect Drivable Lounge Chair @dentaku: Clint let me drive the base (sans chair) around the hallways here after MIX using an xbox controller since the chair wasn't hooked back up yet and I can confirm that with the wheels on correctly, it does indeed "turn on a dime".

posted by Cara9

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/TechWithTina/Answering-Niners-Questions-about-Jelly-BeanThe-Kinect-Drivable-Lounge-Chair#c634403181280000000 Fri, 06 May 2011 22:35:28 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/TechWithTina/Answering-Niners-Questions-about-Jelly-BeanThe-Kinect-Drivable-Lounge-Chair#c634403181280000000 Cara9 Re: Answering Niners Questions about Jelly Bean—The Kinect Drivable Lounge Chair @dentaku: We did film some stuff.  The big difference between what was seen at Mix and now is I can do zero turning radius turning.  Let me see if I can't get some videos of it turning now

posted by Clint

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/TechWithTina/Answering-Niners-Questions-about-Jelly-BeanThe-Kinect-Drivable-Lounge-Chair#c634403303160000000 Sat, 07 May 2011 01:58:36 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/TechWithTina/Answering-Niners-Questions-about-Jelly-BeanThe-Kinect-Drivable-Lounge-Chair#c634403303160000000 Clint Re: Answering Niners Questions about Jelly Bean—The Kinect Drivable Lounge Chair I never thought about the IR interference issues until now.  However, this is just the beginning of a long line of Kinect products that as mentioned during the Kinect panel, will hopefully become smaller and more ubiquitous over time.

posted by Richard.Hein

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/TechWithTina/Answering-Niners-Questions-about-Jelly-BeanThe-Kinect-Drivable-Lounge-Chair#c634403331560000000 Sat, 07 May 2011 02:45:56 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/TechWithTina/Answering-Niners-Questions-about-Jelly-BeanThe-Kinect-Drivable-Lounge-Chair#c634403331560000000 Richard.Hein Re: Answering Niners Questions about Jelly Bean—The Kinect Drivable Lounge Chair awsome stuff, thanks Tina, Dan and Clint  Smiley

The framerate was kinda strange because it didnt show up in the jellybean app. It seems a little strange that you code was to blame @Dan, after all it didnt to alot of stuff. All i can think of is that it sets the ImageSource over and over, but still.. what ever it was i dont think it'll show up in the beta

About sensitivity i actually ment the control sensitivity, if you did alot of tweaking on how much you had to move your hands to move jellybean or if you had to do any smoothing to prevent jittering. you did talk about that a little earlier in the video though Smiley

posted by aL_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/TechWithTina/Answering-Niners-Questions-about-Jelly-BeanThe-Kinect-Drivable-Lounge-Chair#c634403611980000000 Sat, 07 May 2011 10:33:18 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/TechWithTina/Answering-Niners-Questions-about-Jelly-BeanThe-Kinect-Drivable-Lounge-Chair#c634403611980000000 aL_ Re: Answering Niners Questions about Jelly Bean—The Kinect Drivable Lounge Chair Perhaps somewhat lost in the uber coolness of Jellybean is how quickly Dan and Clint went from idea to "finished" product. Impressive work all around.

Charles

posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/TechWithTina/Answering-Niners-Questions-about-Jelly-BeanThe-Kinect-Drivable-Lounge-Chair#c634404071460000000 Sat, 07 May 2011 23:19:06 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/TechWithTina/Answering-Niners-Questions-about-Jelly-BeanThe-Kinect-Drivable-Lounge-Chair#c634404071460000000 Charles Re: Answering Niners Questions about Jelly Bean—The Kinect Drivable Lounge Chair @aL_:  As Charles pointed out, we didn't have a lot of time to really add in any smoothing.  The motor controller does have the ability to add in accelleratoin curves and I could have added that in as well.  If you saw the scott hanselman video from ch9 live when I was driving it, I can drive it with Kinect smoothly with very little issue.  Scott on the other hand ... Smiley

But I think the jumpyness you're talking about is at about 8:25 into the video, this has to do with how we grab what is deemed the "closest".  What I found was most people would move one hand forward on a Z index on top of the X/Y index which caused the hand tracking jitter issue.  Right now I believe it says "can i haz the closest plus all their friends within a tolerance" which is what causes one hand to disappear when you move your hands if you don't move them as if your a mime stuck in a box.  Since I was the really the only one that was going to drive it, I just had to remember how to keep it tracking my hands. 

posted by Clint

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/TechWithTina/Answering-Niners-Questions-about-Jelly-BeanThe-Kinect-Drivable-Lounge-Chair#c634404164700000000 Sun, 08 May 2011 01:54:30 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/TechWithTina/Answering-Niners-Questions-about-Jelly-BeanThe-Kinect-Drivable-Lounge-Chair#c634404164700000000 Clint Re: Answering Niners Questions about Jelly Bean—The Kinect Drivable Lounge Chair @Clint:

Very interesting, i can imagine the hand tilt would be a problem as you say. how deep was the region you considered active? 1 inch or thereabouts?

posted by aL_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/TechWithTina/Answering-Niners-Questions-about-Jelly-BeanThe-Kinect-Drivable-Lounge-Chair#c634404466970000000 Sun, 08 May 2011 10:18:17 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/TechWithTina/Answering-Niners-Questions-about-Jelly-BeanThe-Kinect-Drivable-Lounge-Chair#c634404466970000000 aL_ Re: Answering Niners Questions about Jelly Bean—The Kinect Drivable Lounge Chair @aL_: what we showed at mix was literally closest point.  There was no minimum distance.  I plan to add that in before we release the code.

It was all trade offs of time, a lot of decisions became "is this a need or a want" feature?  The issue above was something I could demo around so it was a lower priority.  Not saying it isn't important, just not as important as making the robot actually move Smiley

posted by Clint

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/TechWithTina/Answering-Niners-Questions-about-Jelly-BeanThe-Kinect-Drivable-Lounge-Chair#c634404833350000000 Sun, 08 May 2011 20:28:55 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/TechWithTina/Answering-Niners-Questions-about-Jelly-BeanThe-Kinect-Drivable-Lounge-Chair#c634404833350000000 Clint Re: Answering Niners Questions about Jelly Bean—The Kinect Drivable Lounge Chair cool stuff all the same Smiley

i dont mean to say that you needed smoothing, it looked fine to me, im just trying to estimate the kind of sensor performance you where getting Wink

posted by aL_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/TechWithTina/Answering-Niners-Questions-about-Jelly-BeanThe-Kinect-Drivable-Lounge-Chair#c634404901070000000 Sun, 08 May 2011 22:21:47 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/TechWithTina/Answering-Niners-Questions-about-Jelly-BeanThe-Kinect-Drivable-Lounge-Chair#c634404901070000000 aL_