Inside Xbox: Forza 3 Dyno Session and Interview with Content Director John Wendl
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There's no fun in "All work and no play", which is exactly why most of us own
Xbox 360's. When the Xbox was released in 2001 in North America there was a lot of skepticism about the console that was competing against the PS2 and Gamecube. And now over eight years later the
Xbox 360 is an enormous success with game developers frequently stating it's their favorite console to develop for. Since the
Xbox 360 is much more than just a gaming console, I'm teaming up with the Xbox team to bring you a new series called "Inside Xbox". You can also watch shorter versions of the videos you will see here, on Channel 9, on "Xbox Live". Each show will be diving
deep into a topic- something you don't get to see anywhere else.
For the series premiere I teamed up with "Turn 10" for a behind-the-scenes look at Dyno Testing for the upcoming Forza 3 Xbox 360 game. We bring in a Ford GT and capture the specs and audio which will eventually end up in the game. I also have a chat with content director John Wendl and talk about the challenges of developing for the 360, we discuss the new engine and simply talk tech: Visible Tire Deformation, Polygons, Game Engines and Rendering.
If you have any further show ideas you would like to see for this series let me know. Some future ideas I have are a look at Project Natal, the technology inside of the Xbox 360 (let's crack one of these babies open, voiding the warranty of course) let's talk to the devs behind Halo ODST and let's connect your Xbox to your Windows Home Server. This isn't a game review show it's a show for those that want way more than that.
For the series premiere I teamed up with "Turn 10" for a behind-the-scenes look at Dyno Testing for the upcoming Forza 3 Xbox 360 game. We bring in a Ford GT and capture the specs and audio which will eventually end up in the game. I also have a chat with content director John Wendl and talk about the challenges of developing for the 360, we discuss the new engine and simply talk tech: Visible Tire Deformation, Polygons, Game Engines and Rendering.
If you have any further show ideas you would like to see for this series let me know. Some future ideas I have are a look at Project Natal, the technology inside of the Xbox 360 (let's crack one of these babies open, voiding the warranty of course) let's talk to the devs behind Halo ODST and let's connect your Xbox to your Windows Home Server. This isn't a game review show it's a show for those that want way more than that.
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patiently waiting.... GOT NO XBOX IN THIS HOUSE GRRRR
I have Xbox but there's no dyno on the french xbox live, so i'm waiting for too...
Okay peeps,
Here is the deal. This video was originally posted under the Tina blog when it should have been posted under the Inside Xbox show page which is where the URL from Xbox live points too. My snaffu. I am working with the devs to find a way to bring the comments and our discussion from the original post to this one. In the meantime, here is a link to that discussion.
http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Tina/Inside-Xbox-Forza-3-Dyno-Session-and-Interview-with-Content-Manager-John-Wendl/
Thanks for your patience. I blame it on last night's Merlot okay fine last night's Jack Daniels.
t
Please for the love of everything good take the video down take the stupid loud music out of the dyno session. Car passionate people that want to play Forza Motorsport want to hear the car not the dumb music. Thank You - From the Oldest and most Die Hard Forza Community ForzaCentral.com (Yes we are over a year older than the official forum.)
so thats where this post went
fyi that link is dead (now), hope you can find those posts though
About the content, this was 90% marketing, very similar to
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/design-walkthrough-forza-motorsport/53172
I find the video on that link more interesting, it goes deeper into the game and shows gameplay and video, and not 30% of the video talks about the performance of some car, the format is still not something I think is appropriate for C9 though.
I do not think you need to expand your audience, I think MS would benefit from keeping the content on this site to us geeks and experts, if we like it, we will promote Microsoft and the products to the other non experts.
About ping and marketing, here are some headlines from the latest shows:
"What does Zune HD mean for you?"
"Tired mac ads"
"Is google scared?"
"Microsoft is cool"
Contrast this with the very professional atmosphere in the JAOO interviews with Guy Steele and Anders, or with interviews with Lars Bak from Lang.Net
If you can drastically change the format of the show, I would love to watch it. Here are some ideas for content:
- A technical Interview with Halo lead Corrinne Yu, about programming.
http://www.kombo.com/article.php?artid=12174
- An interview with the guys who ported Compact Framework to Xbox for XNA, problems, solutions, tips for optimizing code etc.
- An technical talk with the awesome Johnny Lee and Natal.
This guy:
http://channel9.msdn.com/shows/The+Knowledge+Chamber/Johnny-Lee-Microsoft-Researcher/
- More XNA stuff, what's next, who is working there, a tour around their offices etc.
- Interview with Gears of War team, or preferable Tim Sweeney from Epic. Problems with developing the Unreal Engine cross platform, differences between Xbox, PC and PS3. General-purpose CPUs on the xbox360 vs the SPUs on the PS3. SPU and parallel programming in general.
Hey RobertL thanks for the suggestions on future episodes. I've interviewed Tim Sweeney in the past and would love to sit down with him again for this show and some XNA content is great as well. Those are exactly the types of things we want and will do. As far as not expanding our audience you will have to take that up with those well above me. Like I mentioned before you will still get all of the interviews you love and enjoy. Ping, Inside Xbox or the soon to be released series "Knit or Die" will not effect that.
t
cool, did you see my feedback there or should i repost it?
Er, so hang on. What happened to the posts by Niners who felt that this video didn't really belong on Channel 9? As I pointed out earlier, there is a huge gap (like the difference between marketing and science) between this video and the one by Brian Beckman on Forza's tire physics. I know Channel 9 is trying to grow its remit, so if this video is representative of some of the content to come could we please have some user controls to filter out stuff that's also going to appear on XBL? I enjoy my Xbox 360 (have preordered ODST already), I love Channel 9 - would rather not see them 'mashed up'.
You mean, your feedback on this being a great idea and it was an absolute pleasure seeing something different and holy crap how cool to see a real dyno session. Yep, I got it aL_
I completely agree.
I hate to be mean, so please don't delete this.....
It's absolutely IDIOTIC to play music over the dino test!!! I sat here with anticipation of hearing the raw roar of that engine....AND YOU PLAY MUSIC, NOT JUST MUSIC, LOUD MUSIC OVER THE F R E A K I N G TEST.
Who came up with that genius idea.
Obviously you must NOT be car enthusiasts in any way.
uh, yeah.. and some other stuff
but i do think there is a place for this show, it might need some tweaks but hey, its only the first episode
I hear you Shandy. That music was clearly supposed to be lowered so you could hear the engine but it obviously wasn't enough. The music is being killed completely there and we are trying everything we can audio wise to bring up the audio even further during the testing. Thanks for your comment.
t
The only reason to use background music is when you do a compilation, like this one:
Oh you're sneaky Zippy! You've been searching!! I call a foul. Although you have to admit Cliff makes some fantastic games. This was put together by Kevin Periera from Attack of the Show a few years back. I look so much younger back then, oh the memories. But I LOVE the music.
I will see if Dan,Charles or anybody else wants to borrow it for their channel 9 interviews.
New audio is up and fixed!
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