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Visual Studio Toolbox: Visual Studio 2012 Release Candidate

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In this episode, Jason Zander joins us to celebrate the availability of Visual Studio 2012 Release Candidate. Jason shows off a number of features that have been added to Visual Studio since Beta, including

  • IDE updates [02:55]
  • Web site optimization (bundling/minification) [07:00]
  • Web publishing [10:35]
  • Enhancements to Blend for designing both XAML [16:00] and HTML apps [20:30]
  • OData support in LightSwitch [29:45]

 

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  • Ok, everything is great so far (03:40min) but how many more comments do you guys need to get rid of ALL CAPS menu?

  • GregGreg

    Why are we demoing Blend during a Visual Studio release candidate??? Understand for XAML stuff, but HTML/CSS?

  • JIMMY JOHNJIMMY JOHN

    THIS IS GREAT, BUT, IT NEEDS MORE ::::::::::CAPS::::::::::::!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Greene ApplebaumGreene Applebaum

    The tire tracks in the title bars need to go. Changing colons to tire tracks doesn't make it any better.

  • tellingmachinetellingmach​ine

    VS2012 will make history as the Vista of Visual Studios. Garanteed!

  • So, can we create Azure projects in this release ? Or we just have to wait until...someday ?

  • CAPTAIN MENUCAPTAIN MENU

    CAPITALIZE ALL THE CODES

  • Well... that was a disappointing. I thought this was going to be mostly about the new features in Visual Studio 2012 RC. Wouldn't we just love to see the true ratio of developers protesting/supporting the all caps feature? Smiley

  • SERIOUSLYSERIOUSLY

    SERIOUSLY ALL CAPS IS SO STUPID ITS NOT FUNNY!!!!
    LOVE TO GET MY HANDS ON NEW FEATURES BUT I JUST CANT GET PASSED SOME OF THE SO STUPID THINGS YOU GUYS HAVE DONE WITH THIS RELEASE! ALL CAPS BEING THE MOST MINOR BUT MOST LAUGHABLE ONE!!!!!

    IF YOU CAN'T TAKE MY COMMENT SERIOUSLY BECAUSE OF THE CAPS WHY SHOULD I TAKE YOUR PRODUCT SERIOUSLY???

  • Greg Duncangduncan411 It's amazing what a professional photographer can do...

    The All Caps menu bugged me to, but I just found and blogged about a fix! Normal menus in VS2012 RC are just a reg hack away... Stop the screaming! Are the Visual Studio 2012 ALL CAPS menus bugging you? Here's a Reg Hack to fix it!

    Hope this helps... Smiley

  • anonyanony

    I have tried RC and something I feel bad are:-

    CAPS in menu.
    I have tried to copy script and paste in Visual studio. he show me popup and wait for 2 min. When I copied it's show pop again. I wait for 30 min with no response.

  • mikmik

    I thought the time it took to load up a solution in the beta was slow (but it was a beta) but the RC is markedly worse. A WPF app which consists of a window containing a single button and the code-behind containing an empty button_Click event - should this really take several minutes to load up? Really?

  • James PattersonJames Patterson

    I'm really disappointed about the lack of color in the solution explorer. I thought the VS team was bringing back color but most of the icons are still monochrome. I stare at thing all day, and with monochrome it hurts my eyes. This is the first release of VS in 10 years where I don't want to move to it.

    Please please please make xaml and classes files stand out in the solution explorer. Adding a smidgen of color is not enough. Make them stand out!

  • Wolfgang Zieglerzico zico

    All people are doing here is bitching about the caps in the main menu! Really?!?

    Visual Studio 2012 is an awesome product from what I have seen so far.

    So get over the caps thing and stop acting like a bunch of whiny babies.

    Great video btw - especially the blend demo was impressive.

  • HI THERE. I FOR ONE LIKE THE NEW VISUAL STUDIO. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE AN OPTION TO SHOW MY OWN CODE IN ALL-CAPS! LOOKS WAY BETTER AND IS MORE READABLE. STILL WONDER WHY WP7 WENT WITH LOWERCASE TEXT.

  • The Visual Studio Ultimate 2012 RC (x86) - DVD (English) link on the MSDN Subscriber Downloads site indicates that a product key is not required.  However, the installation dialog asks for a product key and installation can't proceed until one is provided.

    ----------------------------

    Oops, haven't had my coffee yet this morning.  This comment applies to the Windows 8 RC and not VS.

  • Where are the ISO's on the download page?

  • Sandeep SachanSandeep Sachan

    You should use the following link to download the iso for vs 2012 RC. It work like charm for me.

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/downloads/#searchTerm=&ProductFamilyId=464&Languages=en&PageSize=10&PageIndex=0&FileId=0

    I downloaded 1.5gigs iso for ultimate.

  • JulesJules

    VS 2012 is still really ugly and dreary to work with, despite all our comments on previous Betas.

    Thankfully we are still developing for Windows 7 and Silverlight, and so can still work with the better VS 2010 environment.

    Hopefully Microsoft will get the message sometime soon.

  • @jlomax:There are links to the ISO images on the download page for each version. For example, http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=29917 is the download page for Ultimate. Scroll down to the step 3 of the Instructions where you will find the download link for the ISO image.

    Robert

  • VtpVtp

    Why is the scroll bar in light color when using dark them?

  • Michael A. VolzFlynn0r Passionate about code

    Everything I wanted to say was said before;:

    "The tire tracks in the title bars need to go. Changing colons to tire tracks doesn't make it any better."

    "...how many more comments do you guys need to get rid of ALL CAPS menu?"

    "I stare at thing all day, and with monochrome it hurts my eyes."

    "This is the first release of VS in 10 years where I don't want to move to it."

    "Adding a smidgen of color is not enough."

    We have to work with it, day in day out. Those supposedly minor annoyances are huge if you will be annoyed every freaking day. Why is it so hard for us developers to get this message to Microsoft?

    PLEASE NO CAPS

    PLEASE NO MONOCHROME(ish) UI

    A WELL BALANCED USER EXPERIENCE IS MISSING, IMHO

    The rest of the product is amazing as always.

     

    BTW: The only videos not working in "IE10 / Windows 8 Release Preview" are the Channel 9 Videos.

  • Same with me, agree with the above said.

    Most parts of the UI are still that much monochromatic that it's really hard to distinguish icons. items and windows borders.

    Especially the Windows Forms Toolbox and the SCC-Explorer lack a that lot of color that - at least i - have to begin to read each items caption to get some orientation. 

    From my perspective color just needs to be a configurable option (propose a 'colorful' theme), same with all caps. Who is happy with grey or dark theme and all caps sticks with that optiion, all other go with colors. if they feel more comfortable.

  • CharlesCharles Welcome Change

    , Flynn0r wrote 

    BTW: The only videos not working in "IE10 / Windows 8 Release Preview" are the Channel 9 Videos.



    What problems are you having? Can you elaborate? I'm not experiencing any issues with video playback on C9 using IE10 Metro or Desktop in Win8 RP.

    C

  • What I don't get is people who spend the whole time complaining about CAPS! Personally I find a word that is in all CAPS easier to click on as it is slightly LARGER than the others. So maybe some of us would rather have the all caps. HOW ABOUT YOU SUGGEST THEY GIVE YOU THE OPTION TO CAPITALIZE THE KEY TASKS YOU WANT, ALL OR NONE. NOW wouldn't that be a USEFULL SUGGEStion?

    Broken

  • The victory of design over useability? I think so. It seems like there's a lack of understanding about what workaday developers want at the top of Microsoft. While design is very important, you have to keep designers on a short leash. For the love of Melinda, can't we just get better usability without having to put up with some designer's (wet) dream of changing the world? Keeping the user interface similar is not sexy, but it's probably what the majority of us (desktop) business developers want. Not envelopes pushed, or paradigms shifted...just better usability.

    And don't get me started on the wisdom of forcing the mobile device UI on desktop developers' daily work environment in Windows 8.

    Finally, I've been a HUGE Microsoft cheerleader in the past. My enthusiasm continues to be moderated as time goes on. I hope Microsoft listens to its biggest evangelists: the desktop developers of the business world.

    My dos centavos.

  • Visual Studio 2012 RC for Windows 8 (All ISO Images)

    It may helpful.

  • Josejlcard Jose

    Wow lots of stuff in this release, good job guys

  • JohnJohn

    How to get rid of the CAPS:
    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\VisualStudio\11.0\General\SuppressUppercaseConversion
    REG_DWORD value: 1

  • J CJ C

    I don't find the template for the self tracking entities after I installed the RC, can anyone tell me where is it?

    Regards
    JC

  • @J C:Look for it to be published on the Visual Studio Gallery in the next week or so.

    Robert

  • Why are you doing this to us ?!?

    Adding back in a bit of color to an otherwise monochrome UI is not good enough. The majority of my workday is spent in Visual Studio and I am dreading the day that I have to switch from VS2010 to VS2012 because of the new UI changes.

    How many times and how many different ways do you need to hear the message from us that we don't like the lack of color ?

    Is it not possible to skin VS2012 so that the people who like the monochrome UI can have it and those of us who want color can have a FULLY colorized skin of our own that reaches every area of the VS UI  including toolbar / solution explorer icons ?

  • buddyPbuddyP

    I don't see an answer to the question about the azure toolkit. The latest one is for windows 8 consumer preview. This is a major drawback to testing from the cloud.

  • WaldemarWaldemar

    Interesting... I haven't even noticed the CAPS problem until other complained and now simply said I didn't care before and I don't care now.

    For the colors I've more or less stripped the ide down to bare metal and set up shortcuts for all the stuff that I need and that is it. No mouse clicking.. ok.. less mouse clicking. But I still think that the option to have different icons sets should be a must as we are not the same and I would like to see some colors too. Sum: give people options.

    For the rest I can say that vs2011/12 is simply awesome... I rarely fire the vs2010 anymore.. well there are/were some bugs that require 2010, but for the rest it's a blast.

    All in all: good job VS team!

  • I can't stand the monochrome icons in the solution explorer either, its too hard to pick out what each icon is. I can see how someone who could extract no semantic meaning from looking at that explorer (i.e. a designer) might think its great, but for a coder? Its a disaster.

    Even from a design perspective the icons are ugly. The folder icon for instance is horsey - perhaps because of the huge expanse of black. The file icon for C# is redundant as it is on a file with .cs extension and its not showing its a file.

    I think what this is all showing, is that metro doesn't work for complex UIs and blindly enforcing it is causing a lot of pain. Theoretically I like the idea of a lack of chrome and clutter, but the practical implementation is definitely wanting.

  • JustinJustin

    With all the technology and features packed into VS 2012, you guys can only complain about colors and type! It's embarrassing.

    So, as long as we're on colors - I, for one, appreciate the dulled UI. I want my code to stand out, not the noise of buttons and toolbars around it.

  • MattMatt

    You know, I'm still using Office 2003 because I cannot stand the Ribbon in the later versions Office. Microsoft could have left those menus in there, but instead decided to strip them out thus alienated many of their legacy users.

    Likewise, Microsoft could have designed Visual Studio 2012 to enable users to selected their own theme, allowing them to decide the colours and icons to use themselves, without locking them into what looks like MS DOS gone wrong.

  • JohnJohn

    I CAN SEE 3 POSSIBLE EXPLANATIONS FOR ALL THOSE CAPS:

    1) THIS WILL BE RELEASED ON THE 28TH OF JUNE, WHICH IS INTERNATIONAL CAPS LOCK DAY.
    2) MS WILL MOVE ITS' FOCUS TO COBOL AND FORTRAN, LANGUAGES FAMOUS FOR THEIR BEAUTIFUL ALL-CAPS CODE. THEY JUST WANT TO EASE OUR TRANSITION TO ALL-CAPS CODE.
    3) THE HIGH FAN NOISE OF HIGH PERFORMANCE COMPUTERS HAS MADE DEVELOPERS DEAF, SO THE IDE NEADS TO SHOUT.

    As for the monochrome greyish look, I think the hired Erich Honecker's interior decorator to give the IDE that distinctive East German look.

  • Michael AndersonMichael Anderson

    Just downloaded Visual Studio 2012 RC. What did you do with the LOOK AND FEEL and all CAPS.

    VS 2012 RC is really washed out. Solution Explorer is Monochromatic. This reminds me of being forced to eat Sauerkraut as a child. I can't believe the team allowed the UI to get this far. I've always looked forward to the UI enhancements with VS, but it seems that designers live and get feedback from the dark side of the moon.

    Additionally, 3 of my developers felt the same exact way. Please include a "VS 2010 classic" Theme, skin or UI option.

    Thanks,

    Michael Anderson

  • MikeMike

    Have you guys tried the Beta? It was ALL CAPS for the menus, the toolbar, the status bar, file names, ....

    RC is way more better that ONLY THE MENUS ARE ALL CAPS.

  • Who designed this UI? Did they ask any users (i.e. developers) for feedback? If not, why not?

    I can not see any justification for avoiding colors... colors are extremely helpful for quick visual navigation.

     

  • GraemeGraeme

    Can I just add my voice to the chorus of voices saying the interface is a disaster.

    I mean, things like the all CAPS just look ugly. But the bigger problem is the fact that it is monochrome, and just as big is the fact you've removed almost all the deliminating lines (boxes, shading etc), I assume in an effort to make the interface less "cluttered". But it has just the complete opposite effect. The human brain has spent millions of years adapting to using visual cues such as color and lines to find things. Those "cluttering" icon colors and lines separating different ribbons and menus and windows are the visual cues the we use to quickly find what we are looking for on the screen. Without them the interface is messy and painful to use. Even if it did make the code window stand out, which it doesn't, I find it gets just as lost as everything else with the monochrome no-lines look, I find myself spending just as much time using flipping from file to file or using other windows as I do actually in the code window.

    Please understand that developers are going to be using this for many years to come, where-as the "uncluttered is cool" fad is going to pass on just like every other fad does, leaving VS2012 just looking like a badly designed DOS screen!

    Design aside the rest of the product seems great!

  • JordicusJordicus

    I DREAM OF A BRAND NEW WORLD WHERE THE KEYBOARD CAPS-LOCK KEY IS ACTUALLY ILLEGAL. AND WE HAVE NO OPTION TO HAVE LOW-CAPS... EVER!
    THIS UI IS JUST GREAT AND GOING INTO THE RIGHT DIRECTION IN SHAPING THE FUTURE.

  • baobeibaobei

    So the design team said 'lets make it look like a piece of paper! Great, navigating the solution explorer is painful. This is a step backwards.

  • Hooray, even NuGet Package Explorer goes "ALL CAPS" now!

  • , Flynn0r wrote

    Everything I wanted to say was said before;:

    "The tire tracks in the title bars need to go. Changing colons to tire tracks doesn't make it any better."

    "...how many more comments do you guys need to get rid of ALL CAPS menu?"

    "I stare at thing all day, and with monochrome it hurts my eyes."

    "This is the first release of VS in 10 years where I don't want to move to it."

    "Adding a smidgen of color is not enough."

    We have to work with it, day in day out. Those supposedly minor annoyances are huge if you will be annoyed every freaking day. Why is it so hard for us developers to get this message to Microsoft?

    PLEASE NO CAPS

    PLEASE NO MONOCHROME(ish) UI

    A WELL BALANCED USER EXPERIENCE IS MISSING, IMHO

    The rest of the product is amazing as always.

     

    BTW: The only videos not working in "IE10 / Windows 8 Release Preview" are the Channel 9 Videos.

    Agreed.

    I may have tolerated the caps menu! but in no way i can tolerate the monochromatic colors!

    This is ridicules, looking at them just gives me headache!

    still with all of these complains, the visual studio 2012 is not changed at all! 

    I am sticking to good old VS2010.

  • Wade WalkerWade Walker

    These color themes are Ridiculous! Seriously...light or dark...those are our choices?!? Everything runs into each other, there are no clearly marked areas of separation, you have to stare at the icons before you know what the heck they are even for... absolutely terrible UI design! VS2010 was the best UI thus far...WHY the departure from that?? You've made awesome improvements with each version...and now this crap... I don't even want to work in vs2012 and I know there are a LOT of people who feel the same way! Please put vs2010 theme as an option for 2012.

  • Mihail ShishkovMihail Shishkov

    Great tool. Terrible UI design. Please give the ability to change themes. Supply VS2010 theme or better :). Put all those awsome icons back and give us the ability of easy visual navigation. Start up VS2012 on a rainy day and it feels like funeral to me. For the record after coding for 2 hours in the new IDE my 15 year old brother requested switching back to 2010.

  • Ron MurphyRon Murphy

    Just can't believe how ugly this is. Took me a few minutes to look fr some well know icons, only to find they have changed. Waste of Microsoft development time changing to this; waste of our time having to use it.

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