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      <description><![CDATA[ <p>The last time we got the chance to talk to Mohsen Agsen, a Microsoft Technical Fellow who runs the Visual C&#43;&#43; engineering team, he put forward the notion of a renaissance taking place in the native world. Shortly thereafter, we created&nbsp;the catchy&nbsp;<strong><a href="http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going&#43;Deep/Craig-Symonds-and-Mohsen-Agsen-C-Renaissance" target="_blank">C&#43;&#43; Renaissance</a></strong> mantra. (Mohsen is great at building&nbsp;metaphors in real time. See if you can identify a few new ones in this conversation!) The reception to C&#43;&#43; Renaissance message has been great (and, in some sense, unexpected). Now that some time has passed, let's revisit this meme and get a sense of what Mohsen really meant by a renaissance taking place in the native world, and C&#43;&#43; specifically. 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(And<strong> remember to tell Mohsen what's on your mind regarding what he asks <em>you</em> in this conversation</strong>.)<br><br>Questions/Topics (click the link to navigate to the topic/question):</p><p><a href="http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Mohsen-Agsen-C-Today-and-Tomorrow#time=0h0m41s">What does your team do&nbsp;at the Microsoft Hawaii office?</a></p><p><a href="http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Mohsen-Agsen-C-Today-and-Tomorrow#time=0h3m11s">On the C&#43;&#43; Renaissance...</a></p><p>Mohsen asks you -&gt; <a href="http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Mohsen-Agsen-C-Today-and-Tomorrow#time=0h6m26s">How are&nbsp;you actually using C&#43;&#43; today?</a></p><p>Mohsen asks you -&gt; <a href="http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Mohsen-Agsen-C-Today-and-Tomorrow#time=0h7m30s">How do you think about the breadth of the language for mainstream scenarios (web services, data access, data snacking applications, etc)? Are you using C&#43;&#43; for these types of things? How broad should we think about the language beyond systems?</a></p><p><a href="http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Mohsen-Agsen-C-Today-and-Tomorrow#time=0h8m47s">On concurrency...</a></p><p><a href="http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Mohsen-Agsen-C-Today-and-Tomorrow#time=0h13m45s">How do you allocate resources on the VC team (so, how do you determine where to place human investments)?</a></p><p><a href="http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Mohsen-Agsen-C-Today-and-Tomorrow#time=0h17m30s">Do you have a sense of how many VC&#43;&#43; developers actually use any of the other language tools inside of Visual Studio—so, would VC be able to ship faster if it wasn't bound to VS? 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      <itunes:summary> The last time we got the chance to talk to Mohsen Agsen, a Microsoft Technical Fellow who runs the Visual C&amp;#43;&amp;#43; engineering team, he put forward the notion of a renaissance taking place in the native world. Shortly thereafter, we created&amp;nbsp;the catchy&amp;nbsp;C&amp;#43;&amp;#43; Renaissance mantra. (Mohsen is great at building&amp;nbsp;metaphors in real time. See if you can identify a few new ones in this conversation!) The reception to C&amp;#43;&amp;#43; Renaissance message has been great (and, in some sense, unexpected). Now that some time has passed, let&#39;s revisit this meme and get a sense of what Mohsen really meant by a renaissance taking place in the native world, and C&amp;#43;&amp;#43; specifically. Is&amp;nbsp;this renaissance taking place in the industry at large, or was Mohsen focusing on what&#39;s going on inside of Microsoft?&amp;nbsp;Maybe it&#39;s both (at least from the native perspective, given Obj-C, C, and C&amp;#43;&amp;#43; usage outside of Microsoft).&amp;nbsp;Mohsen works in the Microsoft Hawaii office, located&amp;nbsp;in Honolulu on the great island of Oahu. I was recently in Hawaii for the ICSE 2011 conference in Waikiki, so I was able to visit Mohsen to continue our conversation from a few months back.It&#39;s really easy to talk to Mohsen—he&#39;s passionate,&amp;nbsp;engaging, curious, and, most importantly, honest and open. There&#39;s no marketing in Mohsen. He&#39;s all engineer. When I asked him about what he thinks is needed in C&amp;#43;&amp;#43; and VC&amp;#43;&amp;#43;, specifically, he answers, but he also asks YOU for your opinions on the matter&amp;nbsp;-&amp;gt; How do you use C&amp;#43;&amp;#43; today? Are you interested in using C&amp;#43;&amp;#43; for building high-level UI-centric and data snacking apps? What do you want the VC team to focus on? Please answer these questions in this post. Mohsen and the VC product team will be looking for your answers here, so speak up! And thanks for asking, Mohsen. Very cool. Tune in. Enjoy. (And remember to tell Mohsen what&#39;s on your mind regarding what he asks you in this conversation.)Question</itunes:summary>
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      <description><![CDATA[ <p>When you think about all the code executing in the world at any given time, there's a good chance you're thinking about a lot of code written in C/C&#43;&#43; (aka native code). As Mohsen Agsen mentions so astutely in this impromptu and candid conversation, C&#43;&#43; can be thought of as the dark matter of the developer universe: there is so much of it all around us, hiding in the computational shadows, powering so much of what we take for granted, technologically. <br><br>C&#43;&#43; is currently undergoing a renaissance. This means that, by definition, the language, compilers and compositional tooling are evolving and coalescing into a state that maximizes native developer efficiency, productivity, and <em>creativity </em>across hardware and software domains (PCs, mobile devices, embedded systems, operating systems, user applications, services, etc). C&#43;&#43; is a powerful&nbsp;&quot;systems&quot; programming language, but it's more than that. It's object oriented, but it's more than that. At Microsoft, most of our flagship products are written in C&#43;&#43; (and C, like the Windows kernel...). As somebody with a keen interest in programming languages and software engineering, generally, I wanted to get some answers to broad questions concerning the language that consistently ranks near the top of the most widely used general purpose programming languages in the world. Who better to talk to than some key technical leaders driving Microsoft's Visual C&#43;&#43; business?</p><p>Mohsen Agsen is a Microsoft Technical Fellow and veteran C&#43;&#43; developer who runs the VC&#43;&#43; engineering team. Craig Symonds is the Director of Program Management for VC&#43;&#43; and a long time Microsoft dev tools veteran. Both Mohsen and Craig have been at the company for many years and have a ton of industry experience. I paid them a visit to see what’s on their minds these days regarding the native developer community, C&#43;&#43;, Visual Studio, and more. As you will learn, Microsoft and Visual Studio, specifically, are re-doubling efforts to take part in the native code renaissance. Accordingly, you may see advances in our native tooling that the team thinks of as “C&#43;&#43; first” -&gt; VC&#43;&#43; will extend its capabilities on a faster pace than it has ever done so in the past, at times surpassing the other VS languages/runtimes, in specific scenarios. This is exciting and a long time coming, but of course it's more passion than promise at this point. There is no specific news here, just perspectives and insights among some very bright people driving Microsoft's C&#43;&#43; efforts. I really enjoyed the conversation with Craig and Mohsen and hope to chat with them again in the near future.</p><p>Links into specific conversation points (video skimming):</p><p><a href="http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Craig-Symonds-and-Mohsen-Agsen-C-Renaissance#time=0m0s">Introductions</a><br><a href="http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Craig-Symonds-and-Mohsen-Agsen-C-Renaissance#time=2m23s">State of the union for C&#43;&#43; from Microsoft's perspective<br></a><a href="http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Craig-Symonds-and-Mohsen-Agsen-C-Renaissance#time=6m50s">C&#43;&#43; as both a&nbsp;low level and high level programming language<br></a><a href="http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Craig-Symonds-and-Mohsen-Agsen-C-Renaissance#time=13m46s">C&#43;&#43; as object oriented, but OO is a capability, not a requirement<br></a><a href="http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Craig-Symonds-and-Mohsen-Agsen-C-Renaissance#time=16m25s">Garbage collection in C&#43;&#43;. Why not?<br></a><a href="http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Craig-Symonds-and-Mohsen-Agsen-C-Renaissance#time=20m8s">C&#43;&#43; portability<br></a><a href="http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Craig-Symonds-and-Mohsen-Agsen-C-Renaissance#time=26m45s">Visual Studio C&#43;&#43; integration and parity with the other languages/runtimes in VS and C&#43;&#43; first</a></p><p><br>Here’s to the C&#43;&#43; Renaissance.<br><br>Tune in. Enjoy.</p> <img src="http://m.webtrends.com/dcs1wotjh10000w0irc493s0e_6x1g/njs.gif?dcssip=channel9.msdn.com&dcsuri=http://channel9.msdn.com/Tags/mohsen+agsen/RSS&WT.dl=0&WT.entryid=Entry:RSSView:c1bf86df1b344c9a8d799e7f017ee42e">]]></description>
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      <itunes:summary> When you think about all the code executing in the world at any given time, there&#39;s a good chance you&#39;re thinking about a lot of code written in C/C&amp;#43;&amp;#43; (aka native code). As Mohsen Agsen mentions so astutely in this impromptu and candid conversation, C&amp;#43;&amp;#43; can be thought of as the dark matter of the developer universe: there is so much of it all around us, hiding in the computational shadows, powering so much of what we take for granted, technologically. C&amp;#43;&amp;#43; is currently undergoing a renaissance. This means that, by definition, the language, compilers and compositional tooling are evolving and coalescing into a state that maximizes native developer efficiency, productivity, and creativity across hardware and software domains (PCs, mobile devices, embedded systems, operating systems, user applications, services, etc). C&amp;#43;&amp;#43; is a powerful&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;systems&amp;quot; programming language, but it&#39;s more than that. It&#39;s object oriented, but it&#39;s more than that. At Microsoft, most of our flagship products are written in C&amp;#43;&amp;#43; (and C, like the Windows kernel...). As somebody with a keen interest in programming languages and software engineering, generally, I wanted to get some answers to broad questions concerning the language that consistently ranks near the top of the most widely used general purpose programming languages in the world. Who better to talk to than some key technical leaders driving Microsoft&#39;s Visual C&amp;#43;&amp;#43; business? Mohsen Agsen is a Microsoft Technical Fellow and veteran C&amp;#43;&amp;#43; developer who runs the VC&amp;#43;&amp;#43; engineering team. Craig Symonds is the Director of Program Management for VC&amp;#43;&amp;#43; and a long time Microsoft dev tools veteran. Both Mohsen and Craig have been at the company for many years and have a ton of industry experience. I paid them a visit to see what’s on their minds these days regarding the native developer community, C&amp;#43;&amp;#43;, Visual Studio, and more. As you will learn, Microsoft and Vi</itunes:summary>
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