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Ch9Live at Tech.Ed NA 2010 - Talking WP7 with Brandon Watson & Peter Torr

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Brandon Watson and Peter Torr join Dan Fernandez on the Channel 9 Live stage to discuss developing for Windows Phone 7 and the newly announced Marketplace policies.

Recorded live as part of Channel 9 Live at Tech.Ed North America 2010

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  • CKurtCKurt while( ( !​succeed=try​() ) ) { }

    I know I'm late but I have a question.

     

    The XNA 4.0 framework is now only for Windows Phone. Will it become final version before Windows Phone GA and will it also support XNA for Windows, XNA for Xbox and XNA for Zune? Or will we have to use 3.1 for the rest and 4.0 for phone only?

  • Our plan is to have the final version of the XNA Game Studio 4.0 tools with time to have launch content for Windows Phone 7. XNA Game Studio 4.0 will allow you to write games for Windows, Xbox 360, and Windows Phone. For Zune & Zune HD support you'll need to continue to use XNA Game Studio 3.1.

     

    Thanks,
    Michael

  • I know you guys are hoping to be able to iterate the software quickly as you flesh out the feature set. You've probably got a wishlist a mile long, so I'm not going to prod you too much on that subject.

     

    What I'd really like to know is how quickly you are going to be making changes to the hardware requirements. Obviously the iPhone is the new hotness right now, and I've had a few devices in the past that have had features like a front-facing camera.  I couldn't really use for anything because it was an OEM feature. What are your plans to balance between providing a consistent experience and still allowing OEM's to produce innovative hardware? Or at least keep pace with the rest of the industry.

     

    I'm liking what I've seen so far, but I don't want to see this platform stagnate because you can't get the OEM's to play ball.

  • ivan_ivan_ g

    I am really glad that you will ban all sexually explicit content as it will make possible to shop for apps when kids and family are around and not worrying that they will see something inappropriate. Which is currently is not possible in Google apps store. It also means I can give my phone to kids and not worry they will get somewhere they are not supposed to.

     

    For Microsoft and App developers it will mean more people will be shoping for their apps and hopefully buying more.

    When Apple put similar policy in place their app store took off.  

     

  • We really need Bluetooth.  Come on peeps.  Please add to priority list!

  • I don't care for any sexually explicit apps myself, but I don't see why there can't be an option where such apps can't be relegated to a specific part of the app store that you can only reach to via a special password, etc. Parents can then apply "parental controls" by blocking access to that part of the app store. It's not rocket science. For your second point, if there are really apps you don't want others to see on your phone, maybe have a section on the phone that can only be accessed via special password? Once again not rocket science.

     

    As I said, I don't care for such apps, but I find the policy of banning such apps to be a bit heavy-handed. When apple did it I though they were just being their typical self, but when MS did it, it just felt like they were getting to be a little bit too much like Apple. It is very un-MS like to ban what apps you can have on your system (I guess the Xbox is a counter argument though).

     

    Ultimately, if there is demand for such apps, and it will make the platform become more popular, I say figure out a way to make it work, but allow the rest of us to not have to deal with it if we so choose.

  • rhmrhm

    The issue with banning 'sexually explicit' content is not that people want porn (they can get enough of that on the web), it's that Microsoft then has to make a judgement about every single app that comes through the app store as to whether it violates some frankly arbitrary criteria.

     

    The MPAA do this for movies and as exposed in the documentary This Film Is Not Yet Rated, it's a very murky process that keeps a lot of innovative stuff that isn't porn out of the public's hands. The investment of both money and creative effort has it's fate left in the hands of an anonymous committee of housewife busybodies and men who feel it's their duty to make moral judgements - teachers, church workers.

     

    And yet, by comparison with what goes on in Apple's approval process, and presumably Microsoft's too, the MPAA is thorough in their screening process and at least if a movie does get the dreaded NC17 certificate, it can at least still be shown and sold on DVD. Invest in development a mobile phone app and fail to get it approved and you've just wasted all that time and effort and money for nothing.

     

    As for the parents that believe their children need to be protected, I wonder if it ever occurs to them to not give their children a smartphone - a smartphone where they will still be able to find any kind of material they like on the web anyway.

     

  • Your argument just doesn't seem to make sense. You talk about MS then having to decide between what is considered sexually explicit and what is not. Has it occured to you that they have to do it now anyway, since they specifically said they won't allow such apps? So your argument: "...then has to make a judgement about every single app that comes through the app store as to whether it violates some frankly arbitrary criteria" makes no sense at all. The exact same issues will come up in both scenarios.

     

    What I am saying is, instead of applying some arbitrary measurement to determine whether an app will be banned due to sexually explicit content or not, apply the same logic, but determine whether it needs to be relegated to the part of the app store where such apps reside. I really don't see any difference, at least as far as your argument goes.

     

    And parental controls are an accepted way of controlling what children can and cannot access. This is an old argument, but there really isn't an issue because if you want your kids not to be subjected to parental controls, then you are free to completely ignore them.

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