Date formate on Channel 9 | The Coffeehouse

Alex K. Angelopoulos

At risk of beating a dead horse, let me point out that the ideal standards-based format is ISO 8601 - either yyyy-mm-dd or yyyymmdd. In general, the yyyy-mm-dd format is easier to comprehend quickly due to the dash delimiters.

eagle

Yes, you smell like a dead horse.....a slow dead English horse...

manickernel
anticipate consequences..

Alex K. Angelopoulos wrote:
At risk of beating a dead horse, let me point out that the ideal standards-based format is ISO 8601 - either yyyy-mm-dd or yyyymmdd. In general, the yyyy-mm-dd format is easier to comprehend quickly due to the dash delimiters.

..actually this argues that the American format is closer to standards, (as well as logic) as it places the month before the day. So not such a dead horse after all...

..now i ask myself why am i still following this thread..

Mike Dimmick

sbc wrote:
The thing with localisation is often that Windows users still have it set in US format (DD/MM/YYYY), and code that checks the browsers location often gets 'en-US'. It would be good if Windows CD's bought in the UK where set to British Summer Time rather than Seattle. I wonder how many PC's are incorrectly set up due to this?

A lot. Even more have the user locale set to English (United States), and very few people have found the option for the system default locale.

What's annoying is the seemingly endless number of places in which I have to tell Windows Setup that I'm British, I live in the UK, I use a UK keyboard and I use the UK currency and defaults. Then there's the popup in Setup when I remove the US keyboard which tells me that it's currently in use and cannot be removed until I next reboot. I don't care! Setup will reboot when it's finished anyway, at which point it's no longer a problem.

Then (XP and Server 2003) you have the useless stub of a Language Bar when a new profile's created, which has only the Help button in it.

Anyway, on C9, you can set your time zone in the profile, but not your location. There seems to be a bug with the time zone setting, though; when I set 'GMT London, Dublin', the response always shows 'GMT Casablanca, Monrovia'.

Charles
Welcome Change

We are going to address this and other internationalization constructs in the coming months. Stay tuned. Thanks for your patience.

C9 Dev

Jaz
From the depths of Wales I come

what i don't like is that MS refuses to localize for the UK and the real language of the World English. instead they inflict "Catalog" and "Centre" on us, if you go by what eagle says, when you come to the UK you should respect our cultures and language.

Manip

I am from the UK and frankly I really couldn't care less. It might get annoying if they had opted to use 10/10/04 or something similar but as the month is named and the full four digit year is given it isn't exactly hard to read or comprehend.

I don't think the location of the web-server for Date/Time formatting should matter but as MS is traditionally a US company and as the Dev team live and work in the US I can completely understand this formatting.

Obviously I am not going to complain if you added date formatting customization etc but I will not be popping open the wine..

PS eagle, I think you have some issues that you need to resolve. You are seriously over-compensating to any anti-Americanism. I think you need to work on your ability to respect others views even when they conflict with your own.

Note: I don't think Britain has an esteem problem at the moment, I mean the British economy is really healthy (best for years!) and British culture is changing and evolving which is not a bad thing. I really don't think there is anyone still alive who feels badly about the fall of the British empire (which I think is what you were implying) and there is a popular move away from an empirial power.

Look at this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3888783.stm

eagle

The “issue” here was similar to the British football hooligans that torment Europe, one guy assumed at least three different “monikers” in an attempt to create a false “majority". Why didn't you spot that?

How ironic that today Robert, Len and Jeff are attending a conference on “Social Computing”. Authentication is a more pressing issue then localization and when will we get channel9 translated into Chinese?

manickernel
anticipate consequences..

Manip wrote:

Look at this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3888783.stm

Well at least Mick Jagger got his knighthood first! Personally I like the whole thing, Monarchy and all.

...and I would like to state for the record that I am not one of the three, although I do sometimes talk to myself..

(I tawt I taw a puddy kat!)

I fear that this thread is about to descend into playground namecalling. I would remind all that someone here is probably baiting others 'cause nobody could be that paranoid and closeminded... well maybe from the Bronx..

;-p

eagle

You don't find it the least bit odd that 9 Brits would land on a thread called "Date formate on Channel 9"?

manickernel
anticipate consequences..

Nope,

Brits are all hard up for women, 'cause all thiers are over here (and I love them) looking to hook up with real men instead of girlie boys. So when they saw "date formate" they thought Channel9 was starting a singles dating thing.

Manip

[Points at the troll and waves]

Charles
Welcome Change

We take globalization issues seriously. Unfortunately, we didn't have the time (or resources) to release a localized Channel 9. This is planned for our next release. I'm sorry if we offend anybody with American style numeric date formats. I agree that this is poor practice for something as global as Channel 9. We'll straighten this out.

Thanks for your feedback and please remember to be respectful of others. There is never a good reason to belittle somebody here. Let's be mindful that Channel 9 is a place for all cultures, even if for the first release we are American-centric from a localization/globalization point of view. Again, this will change.

Keep on posting,

Charles