Posted By: dahat | Feb 27th, 2006 @ 6:47 AM
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For those who enjoy the Microsoft’s latest wave of product names and packaging... take a watch of this lovely parody of if Microsoft designed the iPod packaging.

Harlequin
Harlequin
http://twitter.c​om/TrueHarlequin

I do lots of branding stuff for Microsoft and I've read lots of their guidelines. This Flash movie isn't too far off Smiley

You can tell it was done by someone who does MS branding.

Whoops. You're never supposed to shorten Microsoft to MS Cool

misterorange
misterorange
Forgetfulness is a gift.
Hahaha, awesome and funny because it's true.

Simplicity and elegance were never (EVER) MS's strong points. This just takes it to the extreme (but not -that- extreme...).
Angus
Angus
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I quite like the final product; it would be cool if they published images for each of the faces of the box so we could look at them in more detail. The Apple design is good though.

Angus Higgins
Cybermagellan
Cybermagellan
Live for nothing, or die for everything
I have to agree, I quiet prefered the last box. One thing that annoy'd me whenever I got my iPod. The box had no information. My kids toys that require no assembly at all had more instructions than a $250.00 piece of electronics did.
Michael Griffiths
Michael Griffiths
Fatalism.

That was hysterical.

Brilliant Tongue Out

brian.shapiro
brian.shapiro
things go on as always

well no , i understand the point. i dont like marketing committees going overboard. but look at the XP box... was that overcomplicated? no it was pretty simple and plain. microsofts advertisements are usually simple and plain also. so i dont get it as a criticism of microsoft

littleguru
littleguru
<3 Seattle
Haha. This is really good.
Zeo
Zeo
Channel 9 :)
So true it hurts to stop laughing. Whoever created this really did a great job.....I love the music. That video is hilarious!
Simo
Simo
With me it's a full-time job.
hilarious
Karim
Karim
Trapped in a world he never made!

brian.shapiro wrote:
well no , i understand the point. i dont like marketing committees going overboard. but look at the XP box... was that overcomplicated? no it was pretty simple and plain. microsofts advertisements are usually simple and plain also. so i dont get it as a criticism of microsoft


It's not just about a particular box...

Look at this:



Huge OEM logo ("CREATIVE").  Model logo ("Zen").  The words "PORTABLE MEDIA CENTER" screaming at you, just in case you forgot what it was you are holding in your hand.  A Windows logo button, just in case you didn't pick up on the same Windows logo on the off-center menu on the display ("Hey!  This is a MICROSOFT device!  Remember us?  MICROSOFT!")

Now look at this:


Where's the Apple logo?  Where's the word "iPod" screaming at me in BOLD, ALL CAPS, HIGH CONTRAST type in case I forget what this thing is?  Where's the text screaming the model "5G" or "VIDEO iPod?"

The Apple logo appears briefly on the display when it cold-starts.  The logo and identifying text is all on the back, where you never have to look at it.  And if you do flip it over and look at the back, it's beautifully laser-etched into a mirrored silver finish. 

They even care about looking good on the back side. 

It's a completely different design aesthetic.  That video is more than about the boxes....

Also, have you seen a Windows XP box lately?   They added a big ugly triangle for SP2.  This is the Japanese box:



The Japanese box for XP Professional is even worse, it has the "NOW WITH SP2!!!" thing screaming at you, along with a big overlay screaming at you to "STEP UP!!!!!!" TO PROFESSIONAL!!!!!!!



It's totally like the video.  Big Smile

And here we have the Apple OS box:



It still looks like you're buying a box of Death LOL but -- and this is my point -- at least it's a tasteful Death.  Big Smile

I watched the Digital Kitchen "Origami" video, and the main that impressed me?  The Origami wasn't screaming with logos and festooned with text.

Of course, that could be because, in the video, it's still a prototype... Tongue Out

 

Anyone know where that music comes from?  I'm *sure* I've heard it before, can't remember what it is.

Thanks,
ScottR
CannotResolveSymbol
CannotResolveSymbol
{insert caption here}
Theme - Pee Wee Herman - Pee Wee's Big Adventure

The only way I know this is because the music was used for the Blue Ball Machine page that surfaced a while back and the ID3 tag on the MP3 (which I just checked to find out what it is) says what it is.
Sven Groot
Sven Groot
My name has 9 letters. Coincidence? I think not...
dahat wrote:
ScottR wrote: Anyone know where that music comes from?  I'm *sure* I've heard it before, can't remember what it is.

Thanks,
ScottR


It seemed vaguely like what I remember from a PeeWee Herman movie of long ago. Big Top PeeWee maybe?

The movie starts with a small part of Strauss' "Also Sprach Zarathustra".

The rest uses the song "Breakfast machine" by Danny Elfman, from the soundtrack of Pee Wee's Big Adventure.
brian.shapiro
brian.shapiro
things go on as always

ok. the original XP boxes weren't like that though. and even current US XP boxes are nothing like the Japanese messes. (i remember seeing the SP2 triangle it was nothing too distracting)

i have an original XP box somewhere its very plain, you open it up theres a booklet with a few illustrations and a place to rest the CD. (from what i remember)

and yes i think all of the PMC designs ive seen look bad. but if you look at the origami pictures (whether prototype or not) it looks very simple in the same way that ipods do. i wonder what all those controls are for though

btw i dont think the OSX box is a 'tasteful' box of death. its imo a little bad taste to use so much graphic effects and focus on a big X. but then again i find the OSX interface style to be a bit of bad taste when most people dont.

i hate though how on certain micrsoft webpages, even looking a the windows vista page now, they overuse photos of people smiling, which has nothing to do with the product, it comes off as insincere corporate gloss. ( a lot of corporate pages or pamphlets are like this )

ScanIAm
ScanIAm
On a scale of 1 to 10, people are stupid.
Cybermagellan wrote:
I have to agree, I quiet prefered the last box. One thing that annoy'd me whenever I got my iPod. The box had no information. My kids toys that require no assembly at all had more instructions than a $250.00 piece of electronics did.


I've got to agree as well.  With the Apple iPod box, you don't know what you've got until you open it up.  Most (normal) people throw the box away eventually anyway, so who cares what it looks like on the outside. 

It's only the pretentious, black-turtle-necked Apple drones who care about the style of a cardboard box.

Good god, how can I patent that phrase.
When I buy something as significant as an iPod (just not an iPod, no iPods, ever) the packaging is either very important, or not at all.

I go online and research what I am going to buy and then walk into a store that I know has what I need and grab it off the shelf and buy it on the spot. (Office Depot/Best Buy types get confused over why I don't listen to their advice and when I get impatient when they won't open the bleeping cage right away). The other thing that I do is sit there in the store and read all of the boxes. If I am at the store, I don't have access to the internet and I can't get all of the relevant information. So I want a complete feature list, compatability list, hardware and software reqs, all on a  scratch-n-sniff label. Or I just buy it online and save my self the trouble of human contact. Tongue Out

But, hey... I'm not the kind of person who gets all weak in the knees over product packaging. I guess you have to appeal to the great unwashed.
Karim
Karim
Trapped in a world he never made!
ScanIAm wrote:
It's only the pretentious, black-turtle-necked Apple drones who care about the style of a cardboard box.


There is an absolutely brilliant column from 2003 that answers your very question:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/g/a/2003/10/01/notes100103.DTL

The column, in praise of Apple's packaging, starts off with the phrase, "Oh right like you even care."

The whole column is just sheer genius, because it makes your very argument, it starts off from your point of view -- who cares about the style of a cardboard box? -- and, slowly, inexorably, it draws you...

No screaming colors and no garish cartoon graphics and no massive corporate logo and no bullet-point exclamation points listing the outrageous features you'll never use and you're like, wait a minute, what they hell does Apple think they're hawking here, art?

...to the opposite point of view.

These are the things that are nearly dead in our mass-consumer culture, things normally reserved for elitist niche markets and swanky boutiques and upscale yuppie Euro spas and maybe cool insider mags like I-D and Metropolis and dwell. They are most definitely not to be expected of mass-market gadget makers. This is why it matters. This is why it's important.

I don't want to quote the whole column here.  Go read it.  The columnist nailed it dead-on in 2003 and Microsoft still hasn't figured it out.  If you've ever opened an Apple product, you'll probably think, Yeah, I know exactly what this guy is talking about.

It says something, doesn't it, that they put that much thought into their packaging?  The stuff you're going to throw away?  I mean, if they carefully thought about where the cables should be placed, how they should be folded, where the manual should go -- doesn't it imply that they also put at least as much care and thought into the device itself?

The old iPod packaging (the "cube") was much nicer than the packaging introduced for the iPod nano and 5G iPod.

My first iPod was a third-generation unit.  I have to say, the packaging impressed me.  At first, it was a little puzzle: how does it open?  Ok, not too hard to figure out: You slide the cube out of its sleeve.  The black cube then unfolds in half -- it's hinged -- and inside it's all white.  Except for some subtle gray text: Designed by Apple in California.  Then you unfold two flaps -- the whole box is an origami trick -- and on the right is your iPod, and on the left, a white package holding the manuals & software.  The package has a single word on it: Enjoy. 

Just opening the box puts a smile on your face.

That's sheer genius.   It's the best kind of advertising.  It associates the emotion of feeling good, feeling like you are doing something special, with seeing a product for the first time.  The "OOBE" that everyone talks about and almost no one gets right.  People remember that good feeling -- that's all the associative cortex in the brain does -- and they become repeat customers.   Repeat customers are always your best customers.  Some of your repeat customers turn into rabid fanboys.  Or your best evangelists.

Most companies think, once you've made the sale, you've got a customer, therefore who cares about packaging?

Full Disclosure: Yes, I own a black cashmere mock turtleneck. Expressionless
LaBomba
LaBomba
Summer

Apple is style...

that's why it (iPod) continues to sell so well

All neat and clean, it's has a new look and feel.

They're simply being different and it's working for them.

i just checked out the new macs at best buy...

i really wanna buy one. no pc laptop looks cooler.

LaBomba
LaBomba
Summer
And looking at the latest Vista build it's more of the same...

clutter, and lot's of it.

Yay, a sidebar that is going to take up resources and be hardly used!
Man that is just beautiful! The difference between Apple and Microsoft is spelled out right there in that parody. MS can seemingly uglify anything. Just look at Vista.

Microsoft often does a great job with design and it is rarely noticed. Sad

This blog is a great example. The design is content focused and very clean. There's hardly any Microsoft branding at all. I love this site for those reasons. The thing that makes the site important is the people and the content they contribute.

I see two discrete lines of text at the bottom of the page to provide full disclosure and let you know it's a Microsoft site... and a really cool block dude. Wink

Here's another great example of cool Microsoft layout: http://blogs.msdn.com/max/default.aspx 

I like this page as well: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/default.aspx

And I really enjoy using: http://local.live.com

And another: http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/innovation/yourpotential/main.html

The XBox 360 campaign was recognized for generating some of the coolest ads of 2005...

Jump Rope Ad:
http://dwl.xbox-scene.com/video/xbox360-ad.wmv

Water Balloon Ad:
http://www.xbox.com/NR/rdonlyres/FBB86DEB-7BE7-49CF-AF2E-27406FFF562D/0/vidxboxcommercial001Hi.asx

I could go on, but I think you get the point. Smiley

Apple does a nice job with their designs but they're not perfect. I love using my iPod - it's a cool product. I like features such as the touch wheel and the quality of the ear phones, the huge capacity of the hard drive - but the startup and indexing time is long, the battery life leaves a lot to be desired, the screen shows strange rainbow colors during certain times of the year (it's mentioned in their owners manual), the contact list import doesn't work, the shuffle button is buried deep in the menu structure, wav files of significant length won't play properly, my legacy version of the device won't charge off USB 2.0, the iTunes store definitely has a significant and noticeable presence in iTunes, the software by default rips cd's to mp3 at a poor quality, and I've never understood why there's a hard limit on the size of plaintext files the viewer will render.  The iPod has its problems too. That doesn't prevent it from being a very cool product

I was impressed with the iPod packaging too. A previous post mentions the simplicity of the messaging inside the box. That impressed me too. It's brilliant. But look at this Apple.com page: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?productLearnMore=MA166Z/A --- is it as brilliant as the iPod box? Hardly. Does that make it poor? I don't think so. Does this mean that Apple doesn't know anything about design? Not at all! In fact, it could easily be argued that this page is very well suited for its audience. 

These discussions and issues are very interesting to me. I don't think these need to be religious debates though. It's too easy to state Apple "is style". What about Motorola? What about Maxtor (I really like my one touch II) or Bose? What about all the great high end stereo designers of the 1970's and 1980's? How about the industrial designers of the 1950's? What about Ray and Charles Eames? The designers at BMW? Kool Keith? Can't they all have some style? Smiley

Besides, if Apple has a monopoly on style, I'm going to advocate internally we pursue litigation. Tongue Out

Apple and Microsoft both have a lot of talented people who care about design. 

The video is funny. I dig it. Props to whoever made it. Cool

 

brian.shapiro
brian.shapiro
things go on as always
sometimes i see poor microsoft designs

but man

do i have to take a photo of my xp box and its contents to prove to you how minimalistic they designed it.

get out your own box i guess and take a look.

so get off microsofts back about this

they shouldnt be the whipping boy for bad design because there are hundreds of companies out there that should beat microsoft to that honor
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