Its official: Iran is a nuclear country | The Coffeehouse

Shark_M

Today they officially announced Iran's nuclear capability

JohnAskew
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ddewbofh
And so the world ends. Not with a bang, but with a whimper.

The scary part is that even though they aren't anywhere near producing usable quantities yet, it's just a matter of time before the ~~retard~~ guy running the US pushes the big red button.

Detroit Muscle
Wii!

ddewbofh wrote:
The scary part is that even though they aren't anywhere near producing usable quantities yet, it's just a matter of time before the ~~retard~~ guy running the US pushes the big red button.

It's only a mater of time until the Iranians have a big red button.

ddewbofh
And so the world ends. Not with a bang, but with a whimper.

I'm all for equality, if the US can have nukes then why shouldn't Iran? Nukes are bad, no matter who's got 'em.

Edit: It should also be mentioned that they don't produce weapons-grade uranium and the official statement is that it's for power plant usage. Until it's proven otherwise I don't think anyone should start drawing any conclusions.

UlsterFry
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Well, you never know.. the Iranians will maybe get all the nukes they want, if you know what I mean :O

Harlequin
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It's only for power plants. I have no problems with them having nuclear power plants. Done safely, it's a very reliable power source, but they should be supervised. Any uranium starts to go missing and *bam*, tactical nuke time....

ScanIAm
On a scale of 1 to 10, people are stupid.

I expect pacelvi will be here in moments to point out how unamerican I am, but:

Iran is a sovereign country, they get to do what they want as long as they aren't aggressive outside their borders.

W3bbo
The Master of Baiters

ScanIAm wrote:
Iran is a sovereign country, they get to do what they want as long as they aren't aggressive outside their borders.

That's the problem, we have good reason to believe they will be proactivly aggressive against a certain nation with a blue and white flag.

"Pre-emptive" strike is the word.

...not that I agree it's the best course of action anyway, but it is a valid argument.

JohnAskew
9 girl in pink sweater

I still am wondering what the truth is behind the position that Iran could start pumping oil without OPEC and,through the parallel competitive market, undermine the US currency and bankrupt all their enemies.

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Tensor
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Only one country in the world has pre-emptively used nuclear weapons. After that we went a long time with everyone thinking armageddon was just a matter of time. As ever, now is the time for cool heads.

SlackmasterK
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Tensor wrote:
Only one country in the world has pre-emptively used nuclear weapons. After that we went a long time with everyone thinking armageddon was just a matter of time. As ever, now is the time for cool heads.

Problem with us here in the US is all about attitude. Our attitude seems to be "We got the bombs, b!tch". Additionally, over the past few years, we haven't realy been all that big on having cool heads.

Cairo
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Tensor wrote:
Only one country in the world has pre-emptively used nuclear weapons.

Which one?

billh
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W3bbo wrote:
That's the problem, we have good reason to believe they will be proactivly aggressive against a certain nation with a blue and white flag.

Remember, this is also the same country whose leader thinks he is on an "end times mission":

It's Off to the End Times We Go!
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Yet another one

Plus, he wants to wipe Israel "off the map". Granted, some of his rhetoric is to build support at home, and it's part bluster...but which part?

Escamillo

Tensor wrote:
Only one country in the world has pre-emptively used nuclear weapons. After that we went a long time with everyone thinking armageddon was just a matter of time. As ever, now is the time for cool heads.

What do you mean "pre-emptively"? I wouldn't say that any country has used them "pre-emptively". I also think the use of the atom bomb to end WWII likely prevented WWIII. The atom bomb was going to be invented eventually (if not during WWII, then by 1960 at the latest), but since the bomb was used to end WWII, it was seen how destructive the relatively small atom bombs were, which caused leaders to think twice about using the atom bomb's much more destructive descendents (ICBMS, hydrogen bombs, nuetron bombs, etc) in a later years' WWIII.

As for "now being the time for cool heads", Bush does not fall into that category. Neither does the head of Iran (questioning the Holocaust, and whatnot).

ScanIAm
On a scale of 1 to 10, people are stupid.

billh wrote:

W3bbo wrote: That's the problem, we have good reason to believe they will be proactivly aggressive against a certain nation with a blue and white flag.
Remember, this is also the same country whose leader thinks he is on an "end times mission":

It's Off to the End Times We Go!
Another article
Yet another one

Plus, he wants to wipe Israel "off the map". Granted, some of his rhetoric is to build support at home, and it's part bluster...but which part?

Oh, crap, I thought you were being sarcastic about bush...my bad. You almost had me until the 'wipe israel off the planet' part.

rjdohnert
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Detroit Muscle
Wii!

As someone who is still a draftable age, I say nuke 'em.

Khamul
Death by Escape Key

Nuclear anything is evil.

If and only if a safe way is found for the destruction of Nuclear Waste will I support anything nuclear.

W3bbo
The Master of Baiters

Khamul wrote:
Nuclear anything is evil.

If and only if a safe way is found for the destruction of Nuclear Waste will I support anything nuclear.

What about Nuclear Fusion? Wink

Jason Cox
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Seriously, congrats to Iran, they have the right to have nuclear power and nuclear weapons and we have no right in interfering in the internal affairs of a soverign nation. I'm still waiting for someone to refer Israel to the IAEA for running an unchecked nuclear program as long as they have, though we all know it'll never happen. I'm more worried about Israel using tactical nukes on an Arab state then an Arab state using them on Israel because the US and Europe (heck, China would probaly denounce it too) would come to Israel's aid in that case.

cyberneticloop

Iranian legislators voting to proceed with nuclear enrichment to chants of 'death to America' seems peaceful enough.

W3bbo
The Master of Baiters

Jason Cox wrote:
Seriously, congrats to Iran, they have the right to have nuclear power and nuclear weapons and we have no right in interfering in the internal affairs of a soverign nation. I'm still waiting for someone to refer Israel to the IAEA for running an unchecked nuclear program as long as they have, though we all know it'll never happen. I'm more worried about Israel using tactical nukes on an Arab state then an Arab state using them on Israel because the US and Europe (heck, China would probaly denounce it too) would come to Israel's aid in that case.

I'm agreed with you, in principle, but as I said before, I have my doubts about Iran keeping to a civilian-only nuclear program. Sure, Israel isn't much better, but at least they haven't called for Iran to be wiped off the map (and they're finally making concessions for the Palistinians)

spoofnozzle
Bite my shiney metal a$$!

Oh heck... just let 'em all go for it... we'll soon find out who has the 'real' god on their side... and who had the pretenders.

I have this weird vision of a nuclear WWIII being fought like a TV games show...

Host:: "And now folks... will you give it up for... PAKISTAN..." [applause]

Host:: "So... PAKISTAN... for 200-points... Who would you like to nuke first ??"

Contestant:: "Thank you John and audience, for the warm welcome... we are thinking that we'd like to nuke... IRELAND"

Host:: "WOW!!! -- that was *TOTALLY* unexpected... and, I must say, a very strange move... could we ask why ??"

Contestant:: "Of course John... the Irish just really annoy us... all that singing and river-dancing crap"

Host:: "I see... well let's hope it works for you... here we go..."

[KABOOM]!!

Jason Cox
Longtime C9 Lurker

Tensor wrote:
Only one country in the world has pre-emptively used nuclear weapons.

Pre-emptively? Back in the 40's there was no such thing as a pre-emptive nuclear strike, that strategy wasnt developed for awhile after WWII. Also a pre-emptrive strike, even if we had the capability, would mean that the we struck Japan with nuclear weapons first, which wasnt the case if you recall December 7th, 1941.