IE7 RC1 now available | The Coffeehouse

BruceMorgan

Read about it on the IEBlog.

Visit the IE download page to install.

For more info, read the Betanews article.

Edit: Paul Thurrott discusses it as well.

jamie

great - clicks link... sigh clicks to validate (prove not a criminal) Download!

Download done. Install. You now need to validate windows before continuing... sigh ... click - continues

*i think maybe you should run the validation check everytime we start IE as well. Cant be too careful

LaBomba
Summer

Hey wanna be my Vali-date? We'll activate together. Tongue Out

eddwo
Wheres my head at?

Doh. I just had to rebuild my machine and I only just reinstalled beta3.

When I went to download it I got a "This download is no longer available" message a couple of times, so I thought something must be up and I checked the IE Blog.
It didn't have anything new, so I refreshed a couple of times and managed to get beta3 to download.

It must have still been propagating through the server farm. Perplexed

BruceMorgan

jamie wrote:
great - clicks link... sigh clicks to validate (prove not a criminal) Download!

Download done. Install. You now need to validate windows before continuing... sigh ... click - continues

*i think maybe you should run the validation check everytime we start IE as well. Cant be too careful

Did you encounter a problem with the online validation? It took less than 2 seconds for the "Validate" button to turn into a "Download" button for me.

Because IE7 distributes beyond just the validating download page, the installer itself checks. That takes less than 10 seconds or so on most systems.

Doing a WGA check on browser startup would have a large impact on startup performance and a giant server load. Not a good idea, for those reasons and many others.

Rossj

BruceMorgan wrote:

Doing a WGA check on browser startup would have a large impact on startup performance and a giant server load. Not a good idea, for those reasons and many others.

Bruce, I believe Jamie may have been being sarcastic Smiley

BruceMorgan

jamie wrote:
while it does indeed take only seconds to be accused of being a criminal (twice) I still think Windows should stop the "Validate" after you do it once - for any piece of additional addon software by ms.

back to IE - loaded fine (2 reboots) but it turned off the quick links bar on the taskbar. No biggie - turn it back on - the order is all over ... & certain icons are duplicated ( 2 firefox, 3 Ie's(one from last time i guess) 2 my computers ) strange FF would be in there..

*goes to wordpress to check if all the errors are still there....

THANKYOU BRUCE AND IE TEAM - all the yellow bars on Wordpress are now gone. All the paste image errors and the New themes errors are gone!

It only leave one pop up about "both secure and non-secure items" which Im sure is fine. (perfect world add check box "always allow for this site"

no more firefox for wordpress. thanks again

I view the WGA check not as "prove you're not a criminal" but more like "show your ticket to get in". Different sides of the same coin.

The mixed content goldbar caused too many issues so it was reverted back to IE6 behavior. The feature control key still exists; apps that build on IE components can goldbar mixed content if they want.

To avoid the mixed content warning, I believe you can add a site to Trusted Sites, then change the "mixed content" security setting from Prompt to Enable.

jamie

while it does indeed take only seconds to be accused of being a criminal (twice) I still think Windows should stop the "Validate" after you do it once - for any piece of additional addon software by ms.

back to IE - loaded fine (2 reboots) but it turned off the quick links bar on the taskbar. No biggie - turn it back on - the order is all over ... & certain icons are duplicated (3 Ie's(one from last time i guess) 2 my computers )

*goes to wordpress to check if all the errors are still there....

THANKYOU BRUCE AND IE TEAM - all the yellow bars on Wordpress are now gone. All the paste image errors and the New themes errors are gone!

It only leave one pop up about "both secure and non-secure items" which Im sure is fine. (perfect world add check box "always allow for this site"

no more firefox for wordpress. thanks again Smiley

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Was native support for XMLHTTP (i.e. without an ActiveX control) there in Beta 3 and earlier?

Jaz
From the depths of Wales I come

great news. it's working perfectly, installed perfectly, i'm loving it.

W3bbo
The Master of Baiters

BruceMorgan wrote:
The mixed content goldbar caused too many issues so it was reverted back to IE6 behavior. The feature control key still exists; apps that build on IE components can goldbar mixed content if they want.

To avoid the mixed content warning, I believe you can add a site to Trusted Sites, then change the "mixed content" security setting from Prompt to Enable.

Goldbar? Wasn't that the "Information Bar"?

Refrax

wow, this build is so nice. the speed of loading pages and starting up is great.

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... the DoS from all the people trying to download it at the same time is nice too. Sad

DMassy
Driving!

W3bbo wrote:

BruceMorgan wrote: The mixed content goldbar caused too many issues so it was reverted back to IE6 behavior. The feature control key still exists; apps that build on IE components can goldbar mixed content if they want.

To avoid the mixed content warning, I believe you can add a site to Trusted Sites, then change the "mixed content" security setting from Prompt to Enable.

Goldbar? Wasn't that the "Information Bar"?

"Information Bar" is the official name. Internally we often refer to it as the "gold bar". Saving a few syllables Smiley

blowdart
Peek-a-boo

DMassy wrote:

"Information Bar" is the official name. Internally we often refer to it as the "gold bar". Saving a few syllables

Hmmm

Biscuity goodness.

andur

Just downloaded and installed it.

Its nice to see that the deleting favorites ui-lockup bug has been fixed in this build Smiley

My only complaint so far, is that you still cannot remove everything from the command bar and not have the command bar reset next time you open up IE7. I still have to have a sacrifical extra seperator bar in there to prevent that.

Refrax

i remember some time ago there was a channel 9 video where someone said they were doing tests where the input file was changed bit by bit, currupting the data, trying to cause an error or crash or somehting within the application. is this something the IE team also did?

Rossj

Cool, got it installed before the rush Smiley

A slight issue though - when I click on the New Tab button a get a ~.8 second pause with the tab title saying Connecting .... and then the tab finally being shown when the page has loaded. I was just unsure of the 1 second pause to load about:blank it almost seems deliberate but it really makes the browsing feel slow.

Edit: scrolling is also *extremely* jerky when zoomed in to 200% - I have 2 processors, I don't mind if you occassionally use them both Smiley

Edit 2: Ctrl and scroll wheel now zooms instead of changing the text size Sad

I guess I'll get used to it though ..

figuerres
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BruceMorgan wrote:

jamie wrote: great - clicks link... sigh clicks to validate (prove not a criminal) Download!

Download done. Install. You now need to validate windows before continuing... sigh ... click - continues

*i think maybe you should run the validation check everytime we start IE as well. Cant be too careful

Did you encounter a problem with the online validation? It took less than 2 seconds for the "Validate" button to turn into a "Download" button for me.

Because IE7 distributes beyond just the validating download page, the installer itself checks. That takes less than 10 seconds or so on most systems.

Doing a WGA check on browser startup would have a large impact on startup performance and a giant server load. Not a good idea, for those reasons and many others.

Cool will get the RC soon....

BTW: I think the deal is that -- MOST OF US HATE THE VALIDATION!

ok I know we don't want to "give away" stuff; but it's darn frustrating... for example my network has a fixed IP and a domain name on it....
what about having the server use that to say: Ok we know that domain and IP as a valid user, let them pass?

granted that will not work for random users in dhcp but it could work for many cases where you can track back a domain owner / network owner.

after all in the end if a pirate is inside a firewall at a corp / domain
then I'd think MSFT would want to tell the domain owners about the problem or seek legal action to investigate same.

for legit cases this might reduce the checks to a very low number.
let users feel that "MSFT knows me and trusts me"

not perfect but the start of an idea for a possible balance between
so many tests and the need to slow down pirates.

DMassy
Driving!

Refrax wrote:
i remember some time ago there was a channel 9 video where someone said they were doing tests where the input file was changed bit by bit, currupting the data, trying to cause an error or crash or somehting within the application. is this something the IE team also did?

Refrax,
I think you are referring to what is known as Fuzz testing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzing
Yes the IE team does this a lot.

Thanks
-Dave

W3bbo
The Master of Baiters

DMassy wrote:

W3bbo wrote:

BruceMorgan wrote: The mixed content goldbar caused too many issues so it was reverted back to IE6 behavior. The feature control key still exists; apps that build on IE components can goldbar mixed content if they want.

To avoid the mixed content warning, I believe you can add a site to Trusted Sites, then change the "mixed content" security setting from Prompt to Enable.

Goldbar? Wasn't that the "Information Bar"?

"Information Bar" is the official name. Internally we often refer to it as the "gold bar". Saving a few syllables

Isn't a misnomer since the bar should be using the "Tooltip" system color, which isn't necessarily that golden/yellow shade?

BryanF

Refrax wrote:
i remember some time ago there was a channel 9 video where someone said they were doing tests where the input file was changed bit by bit, currupting the data, trying to cause an error or crash or somehting within the application. is this something the IE team also did?

You mean fuzz testing? I think they were talking about that during the Vista imaging (pictures, not drives) video. I dunno about the IE team, though I'd imagine they've done something along those lines.

EDIT: Got beaten to it--and by a much more credible source. Tongue Out

erik_
Tablet Power

Right on time Cool

I was just getting vista off my tablet and installing windows xp back on for the new school season.

Now I can instantly install the latest version of IE Smiley

BryanF

W3bbo wrote:
Isn't a misnomer since the bar should be using the "Tooltip" system color, which isn't necessarily that golden/yellow shade?

Your passion for the inane never ceases to amaze. (j/k... sorta) Big Smile

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Rossj wrote:

Edit: scrolling is also *extremely* jerky when zoomed in to 200% - I have 2 processors, I don't mind if you occassionally use them both

I don't notice any particular jerkiness here on Beta 3 (as I post with IE zoomed to 200%). I'll tell you if there's any difference once I get RC1 installed and running. (if the download servers ever come back up)