Microsoft Reveals Zune (Via Engadget) | The Coffeehouse

littleguru
<3 Seattle

Well my WM5 smartphone plays mp3s, oggs, mpegs, divx, ... Nothing new here Wink

Rossj

Programous wrote:
May i note that there is currently NOTHING on record with regard to this.

You're right, my original source said "I've been checking around" so this is as vaporous as the rest of the announcement Smiley

I'd be happier if I could buy one in the shop now, as soon as it was announced, rather than it being announced and the designers still not having finalised how some things will work. It reeks of last minute changes, but I am sure they will work it all out before it is released.

Edit: Oops looks like it wasn't 'just bloggers' making it up.

From "Music, culture, and the inside scoop from Cesar Menendez, a Microsoft employee working on Zune"

Cesar Menendez wrote:

"I made a song. I own it. How come, when I wirelessly send it to a girl I want to impress, the song has 3 days/3 plays?" Good question. There currently isn't a way to sniff out what you are sending, so we wrap it all up in DRM. We can’t tell if you are sending a song from a known band or your own home recording so we default to the safety of encoding. And besides, she'll come see you three days later. . .

So yes, applying DRM is encouraging people to break the CC licence.

Ang3lFir3
Codito Ergo Sum

Rossj wrote:

So yes, applying DRM is encouraging people to break the CC licence.

well its good to know my initial thought was correct...

@LarryOsterman.... I also agree with drm'ing the cd rips etc... my only problem comes from the same thing everyone else is having a problem with.... drm'ing CC licensed content...

W3bbo
The Master of Baiters

Ang3lFir3 wrote:

Rossj wrote:
So yes, applying DRM is encouraging people to break the CC licence.

well its good to know my initial thought was correct...

@LarryOsterman.... I also agree with drm'ing the cd rips etc... my only problem comes from the same thing everyone else is having a problem with.... drm'ing CC licensed content...

Here's a question:

WMP doesn't make you use DRM when ripping CDs, it just asks you to accept an agreement that any copyright infringement due to your (in)action is your responsibility, not Microsoft's. Why can't Zune do the same thing?

Ang3lFir3
Codito Ergo Sum

W3bbo wrote:

Ang3lFir3 wrote:

Rossj wrote:
So yes, applying DRM is encouraging people to break the CC licence.

well its good to know my initial thought was correct...

@LarryOsterman.... I also agree with drm'ing the cd rips etc... my only problem comes from the same thing everyone else is having a problem with.... drm'ing CC licensed content...

Here's a question:

WMP doesn't make you use DRM when ripping CDs, it just asks you to accept an agreement that any copyright infringement due to your (in)action is your responsibility, not Microsoft's. Why can't Zune do the same thing?

that would be a safe solution for MSFT (wouldn't it?).... however i don't think Hollywood would be content with that..... and if Hollywood doesn't like it you won't have lots of "super stars" getting the teens to turn in their iPods for Zunes out of peer pressure.

** fyi- im not a big fan of Hollywood trying to push around Software and Hardware companies **

eddwo
Wheres my head at?

Sounds like a job for a community website. CCSigned.com or something.

Artists and bands could register, submit their CC works, which would then be rated / judged for possible copyright infringement by fellow members.

If successful the tracks would be tagged with some additional metadata to mark them freely copyable, and then digitally signed by the site administrators.

It would provide a good central starting place for people to discover independant music on the Zune ecosystem, and once signed the tracks could pass unencumbered from Zune to Zune and spread by throughout the community easily.

It should be run independantly of Microsoft, but with some funding provided to get it off the ground.