Word 2007 citations, should be simple, but... (solved) | The Coffeehouse

Sven Groot
My name has 9 letters. Coincidence? I think not...

I am using the citations feature in Word 2007, and it's quite nice. It's not as powerful as BibTex or anything but it's still nice.

One thing though: I'm using the ISO 690 Numerical Reference style, and whenever I insert a citation, it comes out looking like e.g. Devil

. What I want it to look like however is [6].

Square brackets instead of parenthesis. It should be simple, but I can't find any way to change this. There's some horrible 7000-lines XSLT files corresponding to the different styles, but they seem to deal only with the bibliography section, not the inline citations.

Does anyone know how I can change this, or am I going to have to convert them to static text and fix them manually one by one?

Sven Groot
My name has 9 letters. Coincidence? I think not...

I managed to do this, I will document it here for future reference.

In the C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office\Office12\Bibliography\Style\ISO690Nmerical.XSL file, there's two templates, named templ_prop_OpenBracket and templ_prop_CloseBracket. These get the actual bracket from some other XML source but I can't find where that's stored. Not in the .docx file as far as I can tell. So I just changed the XSL file. I changed line 2013 and 2024 to <xsl:text>[</xsl:text> and <xsl:text>]</xsl:text> respectively, and that did the job.

Come on MS, surely there's a better way to do this which I'm missing somehow...

zzzpt

Hello
I am having the same problem
I tried to edit the: C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\Bibliography\Style\ISO690Nmerical.XSL

but the lines 2013 and 2024 does'nt apear to be inside the templ_prop_OpenBracket and templ_prop_CloseBracket.

wrote:

<xsl:template name="templ_prop_CloseQuote" >
    <xsl:param name="LCID" />
    <xsl:variable name="_LCID">
      <xsl:call-template name="localLCID">
        <xsl:with-param name="LCID" select="$LCID"/>
      </xsl:call-template>
    </xsl:variable>
    <xsl:value-of select="/*/b:Locals/b:Local[@LCID=$_LCID]/b:General/b:CloseQuote"/>
</xsl:template>

<xsl:template name="templ_prop_OpenBracket" >
    <xsl:param name="LCID" />
    <xsl:variable name="_LCID">
      <xsl:call-template name="localLCID">
        <xsl:with-param name="LCID" select="$LCID"/>
      </xsl:call-template>
    </xsl:variable>
    <xsl:value-of select="/*/b:Locals/b:Local[@LCID=$_LCID]/b:General/b:OpenBracket"/>
</xsl:template>

What should i change to make the brackets -> [ and ]
Can you tell me what is this folder
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\Bibliography\Sort

it as 4 files: AUTOR.XSL, TAG.XSL, TITLE.XSL, YEAR.XSL
In al the files there is this:

wrote:

<xsl:variable name="const_BracketOpen">
        <xsl:text>(</xsl:text>
    </xsl:variable>

    <xsl:variable name="const_BracketClose">
        <xsl:text>)</xsl:text>
    </xsl:variable>

I trieded to change it all to [ and ]
But no change in the Word Doc.

Please Help Me[C]

zzzpt

Some one ??
Please help me [C]

Sven Groot
My name has 9 letters. Coincidence? I think not...

Yeah I saw those AUTHOR.XSL... etc too, don't really know what they're used for but they certainly don't affect that.

The line numbers I gave were valid for the Beta 2 Technical Refresh, looks like the file changed for the final version. It's line 2047 and 2058 now in the ISO690Nmerical.xslt file.

For reference, this the original version:

<xsl:template name="templ_prop_OpenBracket" >
<xsl:param name="LCID" />
<xsl:variable name="_LCID">
    <xsl:call-template name="localLCID">
      <xsl:with-param name="LCID" select="$LCID"/>
    </xsl:call-template>
</xsl:variable>
<xsl:value-of select="/*/b:Locals/b:Local[@LCID=$_LCID]/b:General/b:OpenBracket"/>
</xsl:template>

<xsl:template name="templ_prop_CloseBracket" >
<xsl:param name="LCID" />
<xsl:variable name="_LCID">
    <xsl:call-template name="localLCID">
      <xsl:with-param name="LCID" select="$LCID"/>
    </xsl:call-template>
</xsl:variable>
<xsl:value-of select="/*/b:Locals/b:Local[@LCID=$_LCID]/b:General/b:CloseBracket"/>
</xsl:template>

And after modification:

<xsl:template name="templ_prop_OpenBracket" >
<xsl:param name="LCID" />
<xsl:variable name="_LCID">
    <xsl:call-template name="localLCID">
      <xsl:with-param name="LCID" select="$LCID"/>
    </xsl:call-template>
</xsl:variable>

<xsl:text>[</xsl:text>
</xsl:template>

<xsl:template name="templ_prop_CloseBracket" >
<xsl:param name="LCID" />
<xsl:variable name="_LCID">
    <xsl:call-template name="localLCID">
      <xsl:with-param name="LCID" select="$LCID"/>
    </xsl:call-template>
</xsl:variable>

<xsl:text>]</xsl:text>
</xsl:template>

That should take care of it for the ISO690 Numerical style. If you use a different style you will need to find the equivalent sections in the other xslt files and modify those too.

zzzpt

Thanks Champ

I tought i tryed that, but now is OK. Wink

Now can you tel me how to put in the bibliography
the brackets in the numbers

Now is this:

1. 3-D Constraint-based Modeling: Finding Common Themes. Wiebe, Eric N. 1999. EDGD Mid-year Meeting, Columbus, OH.

I would like to be:

[1]. 3-D Constraint-based Modeling: Finding Common Themes. Wiebe, Eric N. 1999. EDGD Mid-year Meeting, Columbus, OH.

Thanks again to all Big Smile

Sven Groot
My name has 9 letters. Coincidence? I think not...

I looked for this and fortunately it wasn't difficult to find.

Around line 4442 (if you already changed the xslt file it might not be exactly that line) there's a line that reads:

<xsl:value-of select="b:RefOrder"/>

Change it to this:

<xsl:text>[</xsl:text>
<xsl:value-of select="b:RefOrder"/>
<xsl:text>]</xsl:text>

That should have the desired effect.

zzzpt

Thanks again
Now is perfect Big Smile

sheepy

Now that that part is sorted, can someone help me please?

Basically I want the referencing to be in the page. eg.

--------------------------------

Random text writing in the document blah blah [1]
blah blah blah blah

[1] Fred Bloggs, 2004, Book name, Author

--------------------------------

Basically I want it as a footnote (like the ctrl+alt+f)

sharoz

I've been messing around with the sorting order for the bibliography section and thought I could offer some quick advice and an interesting question. At around line 4880, look for:

<xsl:template name="sortedList">
<xsl:param name="sourceRoot"/>
<xsl:apply-templates select="msxsl:node-set($sourceRoot)/*">
<xsl:sort select="b:RefOrder" data-type="number"/>
<xsl:sort select="b:Author/b:Main/b:NameList/b:Person[1]/b:Last" />
<xsl:sort select="b:Author/b:Main/b:NameList/b:Person[1]/b:First" />
<xsl:sort select="b:Author/b:Main/b:NameList/b:Person[1]/b:Middle"/>
<xsl:sort select="b:Title"/>
</xsl:apply-templates>
</xsl:template>

Swap the order of the "xsl:sort" elements to control the listed order. This has to be done a second time 10 or 20 lines down.

Question:

In the citation, does anyone know of a way to use the order that the source is listed (in the bibliography) rather than the order that it is used?

I tried to find the definition for RefOrder, but it was not in the document. I hope a variable such as "RefOrderListed" is available.

Any help or advice would be appreciated.

-Steve

mVPstar
I'm white because I smelt an onion.

A bit off topic but..

It would be nicer if footnotes were linked to entries in Manage Sources. Apparently, you can only generate paranthetical citations, but not footnotes/documentation notes.

Though, I'm still using B2TR.

klimeck

For me this problem is not solved...

I try to change the citation like the
http://jpcrd.aip.org/jpcrd/submit.jsp

Also, I need the year in bold letters...

But I can't find the solutions... Sad

Greetz,
Thomas

Ian Knowles

In reply to Sven Groot

#Dec 2nd, 2006 @ 2:13 PM

a slightly cleaner fix than Sven's i made a guess and found MS's propname for square brackets, the lines replaced represent the beginning of a cititation, the end, and the numbered start of a reference so you could change these lines to anything else if you can figure out MSes prop names. Or stick some xsl-text in if you want for a messy fix

line 3715 :

<xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_ISO690_GeneralOpen"/>

line 3779:

<xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_ISO690_GeneralClose"/>

lines 4443-4445:

<xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_ISO690_GeneralOpen"/>

<xsl:value-of select="b:RefOrder"/>

<xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_ISO690_GeneralClose"/><xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_Space"/>