Posted By: Escamillo | Jan 9th, 2007 @ 7:31 PM
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Well,

I don't know what to say - I've tried EVERYTHING suggested here, and on other posts. I still can't get my favicon to show on this site:
http://www.rockinramaley.com

This is a real pain - it shows in other browsers, but not IE7 - well, at least not consistantly. On some machine it shows, other not.

I've used the online tools to validate that it's a good favicon, and the tags are correct, etc....

I'm chalking this up to IE7 just being a pain with favicon...

Bruce, if you have any ideas, please let me know!

Thanks!

I don't mean to seem like I know it all, because I certainly don't - but your theory is wrong...

Here's a page that validates 100% correct, and still won't show the favicon:
http://www.rockinramaley.com/favicon.asp

Which means this is a 100% IE problem - at least to me it is....unless someone can suggest something else....

ZippyV
ZippyV
Fired Up
I'm getting the favicon in on that page.
It seems to work on some, not on others....I've tried it on 3 different IE7 machines, no go....yet it shows fine on my son's IE7 machine.

Just don't get it....oh well...
blowdart
blowdart
Peek-a-boo
Funnily enough Firefox has been getting my favicons confused in it's favourites menu. Every now and again my blog shortcut ends up with the codeplex icon.
ZippyV
ZippyV
Fired Up
Your welcome page is again, full of mistakes:

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.rockinramaley.com/welcome.asp

Other things that disturb me when I'm on your site:
- The intro
- The background music
- The frames
littleguru
littleguru
<3 Seattle
What's the complexity in favicons... Charles, we need an interview. Seriously. This bug has been in for ages now!
LOL - Zippy - all of those things bother me too....I did all that at my clients insistence...

I warned against frames, but it was an easy solution for the music across all pages - the music by the way, is my clients choice....

I typically advise against flash intros as well, however, in the entertainment DJ world, it seems OK to have a flashy intro (pardon the pun).

I'm not sure I'd call the code "full of mistakes"...it might not all be web-standards and valid as define now, but much of the code was Dreamweaver inserted. Will it pass a standards test? no... But it seems to render correctly in the majority of browsers.

At the next redesign, more standards will be applied (kinda similar to how new browsers seem to enforce new standards)...Wink

But back to my original point, it doesn't seem that the favicon issue is a standards problem, as some people seem to indicate. I did create a completely web standard valid page, with the favicon, and it still doesn't work across all IE7 browsers....

I'm with "littleguru" - this doesn't seem to me to be that complex of an issue - it shouldn't take that much to fix....
ZippyV
ZippyV
Fired Up

It's not the browser who forces you to use standards, it's you who has to optin into using them. When your site doesn't define a doctype and doesn't even have an <html> tag then the browser goes into quirks mode and unexpected behavior can occur. Not displaying the favicon might be one of them.
It's easier for you to fix your broken html than for Microsoft to make the favicon work on thousands of broken webpages.

And for me, your website does display the favicon.

Sven Groot
Sven Groot
My name has 9 letters. Coincidence? I think not...
It's not the browser who forces you to use standards, it's you who has to optin into using them. When your site doesn't define a doctype and doesn't even have an <html> tag then the browser goes into quirks mode and unexpected behavior can occur. Not displaying the favicon might be one of them.

That has nothing to do with it. Favicons in IE7 (and from the looks of it so far, IE8 also) are just still completely broken. It's hit or miss whether or not IE will show the icon in the address bar and favorites menu. It also regularly confuses them, e.g. C9 having Google's icon.
ZippyV
ZippyV
Fired Up
You're right, even the broken pages are displaying the icons.
Zippy - I get your point, trust me....standards are always evolving - that was my point....it's not always easy to go back and update all your existing web pages to meet the new standards.

Again though - the darn favicon doesn't even work in some browsers that are displaying perfectly valid html. <- this point you cannot argue, nor do I want to.

But I do thank everyone here for their input and help.
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