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Wil
Wil
Wil
Forgive me if this is old news (the story is dated May 16, and it reports on a conference that was held the week before that) which has already been discussed, but I just now got around to reading an article in the Web site of "New Scientist" magazine.

Speaking at the World Wide Web 2007 Conference in Banff, Canada, last week, software engineer Jian Hu from Microsoft's research lab in Beijing and colleagues said his team is developing software to use of a wide range of profiles in a probabilistic analysis to use your browsing habits to determine information about your identity.  Hu reports that the software so far currently deduces only people's genders and ages with any accuracy, but the team say they expect to be able to "refine the profiles which contain bogus demographic information", and one day predict your occupation, level of qualifications, and perhaps your location.

OK, even with the crudest probabilistic analysis, you can deduce that someone who surfs a lot of Web sites devoted to the trendiest alternative bands or to TV shows and movies featuring the hottest teen idols probably isn't a 55-year-old guy in Dubuque, and someone who spends most of their online time checking out sites about prostate health, 401(k) plans, and golf courses probably isn't a 13-year-old girl in Manhattan.  But clearly this MS team in Beijing has their eyes on a much tigther profile better defining just who you are, and perhaps that should make us a bit nervous.  I suppose it is hardly unexpected that, with the trend toward acquisition by Google and MS of on-line advertising companies, the developiing of profiling software would be given a push, but just how far does MS intend to push this?

Anyway, the full article is here.
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I thought Google has been developing analysis tools like that years before... What's so special about Microsoft's version?
blowdart
blowdart
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cheong wrote:
I thought Google has been developing analysis tools like that years before... What's so special about Microsoft's version?


If google do it; it's not evil ...
blowdart wrote:

cheong wrote:I thought Google has been developing analysis tools like that years before... What's so special about Microsoft's version?


If google do it; it's not evil ...


Is this the same Google that scans every message you send it, and injects ads into it?

Is this the same Google that reserves the right to keep everything you store on their servers, even when you think you have deleted it?

If MS is hoping to jumpstart a market for this kind of intrusiveness, then I'm afraid they're about two years too late.

blowdart
blowdart
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Ray6 wrote:


If MS is hoping to jumpstart a market for this kind of intrusiveness, then I'm afraid they're about two years too late.



Just typical, MS playing catch up again Big Smile
littleguru
littleguru
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blowdart wrote:

Ray6 wrote: 

If MS is hoping to jumpstart a market for this kind of intrusiveness, then I'm afraid they're about two years too late.



Just typical, MS playing catch up again


It seems as if Microsoft enjoys that the most Big Smile
Lloyd_Humph
Lloyd_Humph
If Blackberrys are addictive cellphones, Channel9 is the ultimate addictive website.
They're pretty good at it really, when you think of it. Their products, when they come out, may be slightly out-dated etc, but they are still the leading competetors in what, almost everything? They've really stepped up their act lately, I've found.
jsampsonPC
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I somewhat like this idea - the internet will become more relevant to me and what I'm doing Smiley
SecretSoftware
SecretSoftware
Code to live, but Live to code.
I think MS is wasting its time and money.
Lloyd_Humph
Lloyd_Humph
If Blackberrys are addictive cellphones, Channel9 is the ultimate addictive website.
SecretSoftware wrote:
I think MS is wasting its time and money


Agreed.
jsampsonPC
jsampsonPC
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Lloyd_Humph wrote:

SecretSoftware wrote: I think MS is wasting its time and money


Agreed.


The beauty of this fact is that they can afford to waste as much time and money as they want. It's like being a millionaire and buying lottery tickets all day Smiley You increase your chances of winning, and maybe when you win one it will pay for all the wasted dollars that didn't win.

The most stupid article I have ever seen. Every website knows your IP address, your browser setting, and each webpage you visited. That doesn't mean IDENTITY.

The reporter is mixing the meaning of "Identity" and "Preference". If you read the conference paper, you can see the researchers are trying to provide personalized service which match people's perference, instead of trying to identify people.

jsampsonPC wrote:

Lloyd_Humph wrote:
SecretSoftware wrote: I think MS is wasting its time and money


Agreed.


The beauty of this fact is that they can afford to waste as much time and money as they want. It's like being a millionaire and buying lottery tickets all day You increase your chances of winning, and maybe when you win one it will pay for all the wasted dollars that didn't win.


Wow.

Way to sum up Microsoft's entire business strategy in one paragraph!

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DoomBringer
DoomBringer
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I'm familiar with Google analytics.  It is pretty interesting (potentially scary) how detailed they can get.

In fact that is not so close. Every websites keep browsing history in either the client side or the server side. This is the case from the day WWW was born. Amazon is a good example of leveraging the history to improve user experience. That is similar to a network switch near your home who transfer your network packages, but it doesn't mean it really see all your chatting messages. They are just machines.

DoomBringer
DoomBringer
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aaahchi wrote:


In fact that is not so close. Every websites keep browsing history in either the client side or the server side. This is the case from the day WWW was born. Amazon is a good example of leveraging the history to improve user experience. That is similar to a network switch near your home who transfer your network packages, but it doesn't mean it really see all your chatting messages. They are just machines.


Sure, logging has gone on for ages.  But the data mining applied to it has grown.  Not necessarily bad, but not great either.
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