Silverlight on C9 | The Coffeehouse

Duncanma
Just Coding for Fun...

In today's video, featuring Sampy from the dev team and Adam Kinney... some guy who used to work on the dev team... they talk about putting a Silverlight player on C9, C8, C10, etc.... Smiley

Well, we managed to get the player running on this site in dev, but the problem is we are running into intermittent media errors with some of our streaming media files when played in Silverlight.

If you hit any of our relatively new videos (in the video forum only, and going back a few months) with an additional query parameter of "Silverlight=true" then you will get to see the SL player. If you do this, can you let me know if you get any error about the media file... and if so, what entry or entries you get it on?

We've updated the Mike Nash video to use a different streaming media server than all the rest so you might want to try at least that video

http://channel9.msdn.com/showpost.aspx?postid=343787&Silverlight=true

and this one, that uses the 'normal' streaming media server

http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=339887&Silverlight=true

Cyonix
Me

Both worked fine for me Smiley

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Both worked fine here, too.

keeron
Obsessive Geek

Works for me too

Sampy
This will be the sixth time we have destroyed it and we have become exceedingly efficient at it

Works on the home page too!

http://channel9.msdn.com/?Silverlight=true

Video in Firefox, pretty sweet eh?

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Sampy wrote:
Works on the home page too!

http://channel9.msdn.com/?Silverlight=true

Video in Firefox, pretty sweet eh?

Ooh, snazzy Smiley

Me likes... as I said in the video thread, the Silverlight player beats WMP any day.

~~Only thing I'd add is full-screen~~ Oh, wait... you get full-screen for free? Sweet!

Sven Groot
My name has 9 letters. Coincidence? I think not...

Both work fine for me.

EDIT: Although I could easily figure out double-clicking makes it go full screen, a full screen button probably wouldn't do any harm.

Sampy
This will be the sixth time we have destroyed it and we have become exceedingly efficient at it

Sven Groot wrote:
Both work fine for me.

EDIT: Although I could easily figure out double-clicking makes it go full screen, a full screen button probably wouldn't do any harm.

Oh yeah, we'll be putting that in. Erik just remarked one day that it was cool you could double-click and get full screen. I was quite surprised.

Consider it a bonus Smiley

mabster

Can I pause one of these vids and let the whole thing stream down on a slow connection, like I can on Youtube?

There doesn't seem to be any visual indication of how much has already come down, even while paused.

dentaku

Both work for me and they play fullscreen just fine, which is nice because double clicking on a Flash video doesn't do that.

Cyonix
Me

mabster wrote:
Can I pause one of these vids and let the whole thing stream down on a slow connection, like I can on Youtube?

There doesn't seem to be any visual indication of how much has already come down, even while paused.

Yeah that doesn't happen for me either...

Does this happen with all Silverlight players? if so that is a huge drawback, i hate sites that dont buffer while it's paused.

Sampy
This will be the sixth time we have destroyed it and we have become exceedingly efficient at it

mabster wrote:
Can I pause one of these vids and let the whole thing stream down on a slow connection, like I can on Youtube?

There doesn't seem to be any visual indication of how much has already come down, even while paused.

It's not downloading the video like Flash. It's hooked up to a Windows Media Streaming Server which supports seeking to any point in the video at any time. Try it: grab the thumb and drag all the way to the end and you'll buffer for a moment then start watching.

mabster

Ok, thanks Sampy. I'll give it a go at home on my 512kb/s connection while I'm downloading something and see how it performs.

I love being able to pause a video and let it come down so I can watch the whole thing without any stuttering as it buffers. With any luck I won't need to if the streaming server concept works.

Duncanma
Just Coding for Fun...

mabster wrote:
Ok, thanks Sampy. I'll give it a go at home on my 512kb/s connection while I'm downloading something and see how it performs.

It should work the same as watching it in Windows Media Player here on C9... both of them are using the same stream and behave the same way I believe. If we point Silverlight (or WMP) at a http:// link to a video then you'll see the buffering, but streaming is intended to remove the need for that. Of course, it does buffer some video... I believe it grabs 3+ seconds ahead...

AdamKinney
Agent of Change

Nice job guys, Flip the switch! Smiley

Cyonix
Me

Sampy wrote:
It's not downloading the video like Flash. It's hooked up to a Windows Media Streaming Server which supports seeking to any point in the video at any time. Try it: grab the thumb and drag all the way to the end and you'll buffer for a moment then start watching.

ah ok cool.

Although this is a little off topic, will the default silverlight player buffer while it paused if its not hooked up to WMS Server?

Massif
aim stupidly high, expect to fail often.

Heh... I only have Silverlight 1.1 Alpha installed, and it doesn't recognise it. I get the "install silverlight you muppet" box, but when i try i get the "you've already got, like, a totally better version dullard." message.

Is this just a problem with the Alpha, or a problem with the silverlight detecting code?

Rowan
Look, no errors.

It doesn't work for me in Firefox 2 or 3 on Vista, I just see the Get Silverlight button, yet the Silverlight test page does work in both versions of Firefox.

It works in IE7.

Sven Groot
My name has 9 letters. Coincidence? I think not...

Rowan wrote:

It doesn't work for me in Firefox 2 or 3 on Vista, I just see the Get Silverlight button, yet the Silverlight test page does work in both versions of Firefox.

It works in IE7.

It works in both IE and Firefox here, also on Vista.

Bas
It finds lightbulbs.

It works by default, here, no need for the added parameter. Excellent, guys! It works much better than the old player did, for me.

Ion Todirel
buuu

i'm getting a "Unable to load media: ..." with or whithout Silverlight param

Firefox 2.0.0.7, Windows Server 2003

Stebet
Buuuurrrritoooo!

Ion Todirel wrote:
i'm getting a "Unable to load media: ..." with or whithout Silverlight param

Me too.

Fixitplz!!!! [C]

Sampy
This will be the sixth time we have destroyed it and we have become exceedingly efficient at it

Stebet wrote:

Ion Todirel wrote: i'm getting a "Unable to load media: ..." with or whithout Silverlight param

Me too.

Fixitplz!!!!

Click the "Full Screen" button and tell me what happens.

I've heard reports from lots of random niners about being unable to play videos that I could play fine. I want to see if it's the streaming server or something we're doing. If the full screen button works, it might be us.

If you are in a state where the full screen button will play the video but the Silverlight player will not, please post here.

EDIT: Adding ?Silverlight=false (or &Silverlight=false if there are already query parameters) will turn off the player so you can see videos if you are still having issues.

harumscarum
out of memory

first link:

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Windows Internet Explorer
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Unable to load media 'mms://mschnlnine.wmod.llnwd.net/a1809/d1/ch9/0/MikeNash_VistaStatusReport_SP1_new_s_ch9.wmv'.
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OK
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xppro, ie7

Stebet
Buuuurrrritoooo!

Sampy wrote:
Click the "Full Screen" button and tell me what happens.

I've heard reports from lots of random niners about being unable to play videos that I could play fine. I want to see if it's the streaming server or something we're doing. If the full screen button works, it might be us.

If you are in a state where the full screen button will play the video but the Silverlight player will not, please post here.

EDIT: Adding ?Silverlight=false (or &Silverlight=false if there are already query parameters) will turn off the player so you can see videos if you are still having issues.

Full Screen button = works
?silverlight=false = works

Edit:
Silverlight version:
Microsoft Silverlight
Version: 1.0.20816.0

Could it be proxy issues?