Ice Cube dumps Flash for Silverlight - "Flash is outta here!!" | The Coffeehouse

Escamillo

I just found this at channel 10.

http://on10.net/Blogs/larry/40s-and-silverlight-make-the-world-goround/

"Taking the win for the last thing I expected to see in my Inbox this morning, here is a video of Ice Cube talking about dropping Flash for Silverlight in his UVNTV venture."

Minh
WOOH! WOOH!

Irony?

The clip is in Flash. hehe.

mscherotter
Michael Scherotter

I saw the irony in that when I posted it. I'm glad you saw that too. If you want to see the original video, here it is:
http://blogs.msdn.com/synergist/archive/2007/11/20/ice-cube-s-uvntv-com-goes-live-with-silverlight.aspx
Michael

Xaero_Vincent
Sexy me

I'm not sure what you guys are talking about. Uvntv is clearly using Silverlight for their videos now.

evildictaitor
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It's depressingly obvious that he doesn't know what he's talking about and is being paid/sponsored to talk about it.

My guess is that beyond email, facebook and watching movies Ice Cube doesn't really have a massive interest in computers.

Escamillo

Xaero_Vincent wrote:
I'm not sure what you guys are talking about. Uvntv is clearly using Silverlight for their videos now.

The "irony" that is referred to above is that the MSN video that talks about UVNTV using Silverlight itself uses Flash. I don't see Microsoft converting its "mainstream" sites to Silverlight until Silverlight 1.1 is released (where "mainstream" means stuff like MSN, not Channel 9 and MSDN), and even then, very gradually. And I don't think there will be a directive from on high saying, "you must use Silverlight", rather, I think the Silverlight team will have to sell itself to the various Microsoft media divisions (msn.com, xbox.com, msnbc.com, microsoft.com, etc). Which is good, since it'll give the Silverlight team that much more incentive to kick butt. Cool

staceyw
Before C# there was darkness...

Escamillo wrote:

Xaero_Vincent wrote: I'm not sure what you guys are talking about. Uvntv is clearly using Silverlight for their videos now.
The "irony" that is referred to above is that the MSN video that talks about UVNTV using Silverlight itself uses Flash. I don't see Microsoft converting its "mainstream" sites to Silverlight until Silverlight 1.1 is released (where "mainstream" means stuff like MSN, not Channel 9 and MSDN), and even then, very gradually. And I don't think there will be a directive from on high saying, "you must use Silverlight", rather, I think the Silverlight team will have to sell itself to the various Microsoft media divisions (msn.com, xbox.com, msnbc.com, microsoft.com, etc). Which is good, since it'll give the Silverlight team that much more incentive to kick butt.

Even the great ms can't convert everything in a day. Nor would that make much business sense. I suspect new stuff will use SL, and existing stuff will be migrated as resources permit.

phreaks

Cube is da Man.

Him and Dre are the only 2 respectable former NWA memebrs, with Cube being the more talented of the 2.

Don't front on Cube Mad

evildictaitor
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phreaks wrote:
Cube is da Man.

Him and Dre are the only 2 respectable former NWA memebrs, with Cube being the more talented of the 2.

Don't front on Cube

North-west Airlines?

Anyway, how does this improve his credibility when he states that Silverlight is better than flash? I'm not disputing that he's right, only that him asserting it doesn't help the argument a whole lot.

JChung2006

evildictaitor wrote:

phreaks wrote:Cube is da Man.

Him and Dre are the only 2 respectable former NWA memebrs, with Cube being the more talented of the 2.

Don't front on Cube

North-west Airlines?

Anyway, how does this improve his credibility when he states that Silverlight is better than flash? I'm not disputing that he's right, only that him asserting it doesn't help the argument a whole lot.

You're making me feel old for remembering who N.W.A. is.

evildictaitor
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JChung2006 wrote:
N.W.A. You're making me feel old for remembering who N.W.A. is.

heh. I know who they are. My point was they don't deserve to be remembered.

jamie

someone should update the swear filter with a few missing words

Massif
aim stupidly high, expect to fail often.

jamie wrote:
someone should update the swear filter with a few missing words

Yeah! How come nigger gets through when (I need to watch my language) doesn't? (or didn't, I'm going to look a fool if it does now.)

[edit... oh good, it didn't, that was q-u-e-e-r in case you wanted to know.]

evildictaitor
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Nigger here is used in a technical sense. NWA stands for (I need to watch my language)z With Attitude, which is the name of the band, like it or not.

Edit: Oh, the irony.

jamie

i am aware of the band, its members and its name - and it's not the hate ridden word used above but (I need to watch my language)z

edit: ni g g a z

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N.W.A.

use (I need to watch my language)z all you want

* ha - it removes the slang word - but keeps the real word

Xaero_Vincent
Sexy me

I'm not sure I would agree Silverlight is better, except for the WPF integration.

There is nothing ruling out Adobe introducing a simular feature set in Flash 10.

Anyway it seams UVNTV are just using Silverlight for video. Flash player 9 handles video and audio just as well now that it supports H.264 and AAC (with the latest update).

phreaks

evildictaitor wrote:

My point was they don't deserve to be remembered.

Pffft. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AmeriKKKa's_Most_Wanted

Now NWA, no Ice Cube, and NWA is deserving for so many reasons.
They created a genre.

Professional reviews
All Music Guide link RapReviews.com link Robert Christgau (B-) link Rolling Stone The Source

"...Beautiful anarchy, a mercilessly funky record..." - Rolling Stone (3/20/03, p.69)
- Included in Rolling Stone's Essential Recordings of the 90's - Rolling Stone (5/13/99, p.70)

Ranked #80 in Spin Magazine's 90 Greatest Albums of the '90s (Spin (9/99, p.160) and #33 in the 100 Greatest Albums 1985-2005^[3]
- "...An indelible ghetto-storytelling smart bomb..." - Spin (5/03, p.113)

Recommended as one of the Five Best Rap Albums of 1990 - "...a lurid account of life in the projects. Ice Cube played the 'N1gga Ya Love To Hate' with theatrical fire and considerable skill in an album that gives a whole new meaning to the phrase `black comedy'..." - Q (2/91)

"...A brilliantly wound-up, p1ssed-off album..." - Uncut (6/03, p.113)

"...A visceral classic..." - Vibe (6/02, p.108)
- Ranked #2 in Vibe's "Top 10 rap albums"

"A riotous, feverish rant about life in black Amerikkka that separates itself from his old partners' exploitation... One of the most powerful hip hop records ever." - Peter Shapiro (The Rough Guide to Hip-hop, 2001, p.172)

evildictaitor
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phreaks wrote:

evildictaitor wrote:

My point was they don't deserve to be remembered.

Now NWA, no Ice Cube, and NWA is deserving for so many reasons.
They that a genre.

My point entirely. Tongue Out

ScanIAm
On a scale of 1 to 10, people are stupid.

evildictaitor wrote:

JChung2006 wrote:
N.W.A. You're making me feel old for remembering who N.W.A. is.

heh. I know who they are. My point was they don't deserve to be remembered.

There was a lot of garbage getting released on at that time, but NWA was not in that group.

They are remembered because they made great music, videos, and if you actually listened to the lyrics, it usually said more than what you thought it did at first glance.

After all, WTF does goo-goo-ga-choo mean?

jamie

ScanIAm wrote:

After all, WTF does goo-goo-ga-choo mean?

The song also contains the unusual exclamation goo goo g'joob. Various unsatisfactory hypotheses exist regarding the origin and meaning of these syllables. One popular, yet impossible, claim is that the phrase was derived from the very similar "koo koo ka choo" in Paul Simon's song Mrs. Robinson, written in 1967. However, the film The Graduate, where "Mrs. Robinson" debuted, was not released until December 1967, a month after the release of "I Am the Walrus", and The Graduate Original Soundtrack (which contained only fragments of the final version of "Mrs. Robinson") was not released until January 1968.

Perhaps due to the close chronological timing of the release of the two songs, the "Walrus" chorus is often misquoted as "Mrs. Robinson"'s "koo koo ka choo", although the lyrics to "Walrus" were published as part of the Magical Mystery Tour EP packaging, so there is no debate to the actual lyric.

It has also been noted that James Joyce's Finnegans Wake contains the words googoo goosth at the top of page *557, where it appears:

...like milk-juggles as if it was the wrake of the hapspurus or old Kong Gander O'Toole of the Mountains or his googoo goosth she seein, sliving off over the sawdust lobby out of the backroom, wan ter, that was everywans in turruns, in his honeymoon trim, holding up his fingerhals...

ScanIAm
On a scale of 1 to 10, people are stupid.

CompGuy101 wrote:

CompGuy101 thinks Rap is garbage.

End of story.

I fixed that for you.

Your opinion on the matter doesn't match that of a large number of fans. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Look, to be fair, I won't call Britney garbage if you'll refrain from disparaging rap.

m'kay?

phreaks

CompGuy101 wrote:

Rap is garbage.

End of story.

Stop whilin' foo, ya know you can't fade me.

phreaks

CompGuy101 wrote:

phreaks wrote:

CompGuy101 wrote:
Rap is garbage.

End of story.

Stop whilin' foo, y' know you can't fade me.

Me no speaky ebonics.

Then why you trippin' on NWA?
Fakin' da funk on front street when you don't know what time it is?

Whack!

Cybermagellan
Live for nothing, or die for everything

This is why Silverlight is probably NOT a good idea for sites like these...

PaoloM
Hypermediocrity

ScanIAm wrote:

CompGuy101 wrote:
CompGuy101 thinks Rap is garbage.

End of story.

I fixed that for you.

Your opinion on the matter doesn't match that of a large number of fans. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Look, to be fair, I won't call Britney garbage if you'll refrain from disparaging rap.

m'kay?

LEAVE HER ALONE!!!!11~~~

Smiley

Ice Cube dumps Flash for Silverlight - &quot;Flash is outta here!!&quot;

Ice Cube dumps Flash for Silverlight - "Flash is outta here!!"