WPF - where are the apps??? | The Coffeehouse

kitron

How long till we start seeing something cool on that front. Vista desktop looks good but thats about it, all the apps look like they looked in the past.
The new Zune software looks really good but that is not even WPF(correct if I am wrong).
Anyone remember project Max, why is it that the photo viewer in Vista doesn't look like that?

evildictaitor
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WPF is new. People need time to migrate their apps to the new technology, and it hasn't been long enough for apps to have been built from scratch in WPF yet.

Give it a while it will come.

Also I think the ZUNE embedded software is C++ and the standard zune software is C++/MFC, but I might be wrong.

PaoloM
Hypermediocrity

evildictaitor wrote:
Also I think the ZUNE embedded software is C++ and the standard zune software is C++/MFC, but I might be wrong.

Zune Desktop is built on a port of the Media Center framework.

kitron

I think the technology has been out for 2 years now at least in a beta form.

PaoloM
Hypermediocrity

kitron wrote:
Why wouldn't they write that in WPF?

We had a long thread on this topic some weeks ago.

kitron

Why wouldn't they write that in WPF( Zune software)?

W3bbo
The Master of Baiters

PaoloM wrote:

evildictaitor wrote:Also I think the ZUNE embedded software is C++ and the standard zune software is C++/MFC, but I might be wrong.

Zune Desktop is built on a port of the Media Center framework.

TBH I think I prefer the MCE framework, it's more solid and runs more smoothly compared to WPF (in my experience, at least). With MCE I get 60+fps, with some WPF apps I get ~20fps.

e_zolotko
radio

There are no apps because WPF-apps startup is slow, Fx3.x is rare on client machines, and the WPF-based UI is very blurry (in comparison with Flex/AIR or regular GDI apps). No wai.

BlackTiger
If you stumbled and fell down, it doesn't mean yet, that you're going in the wrong direction.

kitron wrote:

WPF - were are the apps???

Where are the hardware to run that apps without system overheating! Tongue Out

Isshou

kitron wrote:
How long till we start seeing something cool on that front. Vista desktop looks good but thats about it, all the apps look like they looked in the past.
The new Zune software looks really good but that is not even WPF(correct if I am wrong).
Anyone remember project Max, why is it that the photo viewer in Vista doesn't look like that?

Have you not heard of the Expression Blend product? The very tool used to do design work for WPF/Silverlight is done in WPF itself! (wiki link)

There are programs starting to come out.

ContentPresenter is a new view on presentation building

the google search for WPF Applications brings up an interesting result... a Channel 9 Wiki entry for cool WPF apps.

If I remember what was said at the Silverlight Firestarter event, the New York Times newsreader software (for viewing outside a website) is a WPF application. Likewise the Seatle PI has a reader (I believe it's the same one actually, but not sure). In fact both of them are actually on the Channel 9 wiki for cool WPF apps.

nightski

I would guess that part of the reason WPF apps are kinda slow atm is simply due to developers not being familiar with the platform. When I first implemented some data visualizations they were very, very slow. But since then I have been able to improve perf a *lot*. I am sure others are in the same sitaution.

But really a well optimized WPF app like Expression Blend isn't slow at all on my old P4 2.4 ghz desktop. I haven't tested it on anything slower but that is almost a 6 year old comp.

I think since WPF requires the big runtime hit a lot of the apps initially developed for it will be intranet, or closed environment apps that might not get a lot of press. But that is just my humble opinion.