Netscape Browser Terminates Development | The Coffeehouse

a !
http://search-engines-web.com/

Even the 750 mill settlement could not save it - but we should learn from history. Sad

Innovation and immediately defending your turf against unethcal attempts by other companies to kill you off - are vital to your survival.

Microsoft is a great, innovative company, but it was horrible what they tried to do to Netscape - we can not hide from that.

Also FireFox was the lalte innovater - this could have been Netscape.

W3bbo
The Master of Baiters

Ding-dong, the witch is dead!

Long live Mozilla Smiley

evildictaitor
if( !succeed( try() ) ) { while(true) try(); }

Are a ! and raymond one and the same? They certainly have very simmilar post-and-run style posts.

W3bbo
The Master of Baiters

evildictaitor wrote:
Are a ! and raymond one and the same? They certainly have very simmilar post-and-run style posts.

No, a!, for the most-part has been entirely nontroversial. Whereas raymond just posts whatever libtard crap is currently doing the rounds.

evildictaitor
if( !succeed( try() ) ) { while(true) try(); }

W3bbo wrote:

evildictaitor wrote:Are a ! and raymond one and the same? They certainly have very simmilar post-and-run style posts.

No, a!, for the most-part has been entirely nontroversial. Whereas raymond just posts whatever libtard crap is currently doing the rounds.

Okay. It's just I noticed the coloured text with a number of badly referenced links, and then having entirely ignored the post on the basis that it must be more raymond-nonsense, I realized it was posted by someone else.

a !
http://search-engines-web.com/

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pWZElxi0pWU

Here is a 1996 Interview with MARC Andressen explaining what Netscape is to the public and why the Web is important

start at 20.00 for the interview

esoteric
λ

Netscape was just a branded Mozilla, so I never really understood its "selling point" (no, we don't eat trash, even though it's free Wink

...

ScanIAm
On a scale of 1 to 10, people are stupid.

a ! wrote:
Even the 750 mill settlement could not save it - but we should learn from history.

Innovation and immediately defending your turf against unethcal attempts by other companies to kill you off - are vital to your survival.

Microsoft is a great, innovative company, but it was horrible what they tried to do to Netscape - we can not hide from that.

Also FireFox was the lalte innovater - this could have been Netscape.

http://blog.netscape.com/2007/12/28/end-of-support-for-netscape-web-browsers/
http://money.cnn.com/2003/05/29/technology/microsoft/index.htm

Sorry, but Netscape screwed themselves. Mr. Andreesen (sp?) spent more time in the late nineties throwing elaborate parties and wasting venture capital money than actually innovating.

I'm saddened by any company that goes under, but these guys deserved it.

littleguru
<3 Seattle

I liked these animated gifs back in the 90s.

ScanIAm
On a scale of 1 to 10, people are stupid.

littleguru wrote:

I liked these animated gifs back in the 90s.

Yeah, some of them bring back memories.

The netscape name is too big to disappear, entirely. Someone will keep working with the name.

BTW, for the EU folks, this may not be as funny, but at the end of the millenium, two very popular american cars were called:

Navigator and Explorer

Smiley

Dodo
I'm your creativity creator™ :)

haha... I still have a JavaScript learners book which shipped with an installation of Netscape 4 and those Icons Big Smile

littleguru
<3 Seattle

I was in search for the Netscape vs. IE animated GIFs but I couldn't find any...

figuerres
???

ScanIAm wrote:

a ! wrote: Even the 750 mill settlement could not save it - but we should learn from history.

Innovation and immediately defending your turf against unethcal attempts by other companies to kill you off - are vital to your survival.

Microsoft is a great, innovative company, but it was horrible what they tried to do to Netscape - we can not hide from that.

Also FireFox was the lalte innovater - this could have been Netscape.

http://blog.netscape.com/2007/12/28/end-of-support-for-netscape-web-browsers/
http://money.cnn.com/2003/05/29/technology/microsoft/index.htm

Sorry, but Netscape screwed themselves. Mr. Andreesen (sp?) spent more time in the late nineties throwing elaborate parties and wasting venture capital money than actually innovating.

I'm saddened by any company that goes under, but these guys deserved it.

Heck there was an interview with Steve Jobs where he said they were nuts... he advised woring on the server stuff to make money and forget about making money selling browsers.
it was in red-herring when he was doing his "NeXT" cube / computer stuff...

Heywood_J
Trust me, I'm from the Internets

a ! wrote:
Microsoft is a great, innovative company, but it was horrible what they tried to do to Netscape - we can not hide from that.

Microsoft did'nt really do anything to Netscape. They didn't have to -- Netscape shot themself in the foot. I was a long time Netscape user but abandoned them for the Mozilla Suite and then Firefox. Netscape 6 was a horrible piece of crap and every version since has just been a crappified version of Mozilla/Firefox.

harumscarum
out of memory

littleguru wrote:

I liked these animated gifs back in the 90s.

haha

is the one!

jamie

corona_coder
Only Proprietary software vendors deal in absolutes.

This is just another testament that Open Source is the superior development model. Netscape is gone because they couldnt keep pace with Firefox. Truth be told; Good riddance to Netscape. Long live open source, long live Linux.

Remember, anyone who cares about computers, doesnt use Windows.

jamie

sorry? im not allowed to care about computers? cause i use windows?

Bas
It finds lightbulbs.

corona_coder wrote:
Remember, anyone who cares about computers, doesnt use Windows.

He may have a point here. I don't care about computers at all, just about what they let me do.

brian.shapiro
things go on as always

To argue that what Microsoft did was wrong, you have to argue that its bad that browsers are now part of the OS (Windows, Mac, Linux distros), and its bad that browsers are now free.

Aside from that, the time Netscape started actually losing marketshare was when its browser was getting bloated, buggy, and clunky, and IE was getting streamlined and adding features first like CSS and DHTML.

W3bbo
The Master of Baiters

brian.shapiro wrote:
To argue that what Microsoft did was wrong, you have to argue that its bad that browsers are now part of the OS (Windows, Mac, Linux distros), and its bad that browsers are now free.

That I'm fine with, but I felt Microsoft was a little too brutal with the marketing of IE4. I mean, Windows 95 (the 1996 release at least) came with IE2.0 installed by default anyway and no-one complained then.

brian.shapiro wrote:
Aside from that, the time Netscape started actually losing marketshare was when its browser was getting bloated, buggy, and clunky, and IE was getting streamlined and adding features first like CSS and DHTML.

On the contrary. IE3 was bloated, buggly, and clunky. IE4 was a near total rewrite. Nescape intended to rewrite (look up NGLayout) after NS4 but since NS4 didn't get them enough support to do it they spun off Mozilla Foundation and got them to finish NGLayout, XUL, and Firefox in 2004, quite some time. It's no wonder NS folded.

ScanIAm
On a scale of 1 to 10, people are stupid.

corona_coder wrote:
This is just another testament that Open Source is the superior development model. Netscape is gone because they couldnt keep pace with Firefox. Truth be told; Good riddance to Netscape. Long live open source, long live Linux.

Remember, anyone who cares about computers, doesnt use Windows.

I've been playing BioShock lately, and I had a bit of deja vu reading your tripe.

DigitalDud

corona_coder wrote:
This is just another testament that Open Source is the superior development model. Netscape is gone because they couldnt keep pace with Firefox. Truth be told; Good riddance to Netscape. Long live open source, long live Linux.

Remember, anyone who cares about computers, doesnt use Windows.

Firefox wouldn't exist without Netscape. Linux wouldn't exist without UNIX. OpenOffice wouldn't exist without MS Office.

HumanCompiler
Compiling humans...and code

A bunch of the original Netscape guys have been doing Multiverse for the last year or two...

http://www.multiverse.net/about/mgmt.jsp?cid=5&scid=3

BlackTiger
If you stumbled and fell down, it doesn't mean yet, that you're going in the wrong direction.

Again!?!? Or at last? Wink

No more rising dead? No more resurrections?

R.I.P.

PS: It was a single browser which has awful performance on ANY hardware!