C9 crashing firefox? | The Coffeehouse

W3bbo
The Master of Baiters

Every time I go on to any Channel9 thread page I get an Application error message:

"firefox.ece has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience".

Initially I thought it was something caused by one of my many loaded extensions, so I fired up Firefox in safe mode.

No dice, it still crashes on a thread view page.

Well, it does and it doesn't. The error message pops up, but Firefox is still fully functional with no visible problems (besides an always-on-top app error window you can't dismiss without it taking FF along with it).

Anyone else experiencing the same problems?

FWIW, Firefox's safe-mode still loads plugins like WMP, Flash, and Silverlight, so I'm tempted to think that's what's failing.

Zeus
Why is the caption missing??

W3bbo wrote:
Every time I go on to any Channel9 thread page I get an Application error message:

"firefox.ece has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience".

Initially I thought it was something caused by one of my many loaded extensions, so I fired up Firefox in safe mode.

No dice, it still crashes on a thread view page.

Well, it does and it doesn't. The error message pops up, but Firefox is still fully functional with no visible problems (besides an always-on-top app error window you can't dismiss without it taking FF along with it).

Anyone else experiencing the same problems?

FWIW, Firefox's safe-mode still loads plugins like WMP, Flash, and Silverlight, so I'm tempted to think that's what's failing.

Fine up here in the snow Smiley

Sven Groot
My name has 9 letters. Coincidence? I think not...

Attach a debugger, catch the exception, check the DLLs listed in the call stack. If there's a plugin in there, it's your culprit.

W3bbo
The Master of Baiters

Sven Groot wrote:
Attach a debugger, catch the exception, check the DLLs listed in the call stack. If there's a plugin in there, it's your culprit.

Good idea.

Output from Debug:

The thread 'Win32 Thread' (0xaec) has exited with code 0 (0x0).
The thread 'Win32 Thread' (0x890) has exited with code 0 (0x0).
The thread 'Win32 Thread' (0xc20) has exited with code 0 (0x0).
'firefox.exe': Unloaded 'C:\Program Files\Microsoft Silverlight\npctrl.1.0.21115.0.dll'
'firefox.exe': Unloaded 'C:\Program Files\Microsoft Silverlight\agcore.dll'
'firefox.exe': Loaded 'C:\Program Files\Microsoft Silverlight\npctrl.1.0.21115.0.dll', Exports loaded.
'firefox.exe': Loaded 'C:\Program Files\Microsoft Silverlight\agcore.dll', Exports loaded.
The thread 'Win32 Thread' (0xe94) has exited with code 0 (0x0).
The thread 'Win32 Thread' (0x254) has exited with code 0 (0x0).
'firefox.exe': Unloaded 'C:\Program Files\Microsoft Silverlight\npctrl.1.0.21115.0.dll'
'firefox.exe': Unloaded 'C:\Program Files\Microsoft Silverlight\agcore.dll'
First-chance exception at 0x63683640 in firefox.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation reading location 0x63683640.
Unhandled exception at 0x63683640 in firefox.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation reading location 0x63683640.

Stack trace:

>    63683640()
     user32.dll!GetRawInputDeviceInfoW() + 0x5f bytes
     [Frames below may be incorrect and/or missing, no symbols loaded for user32.dll]
     ntdll.dll!NtRegisterThreadTerminatePort() + 0xc bytes
     kernel32.dll!GetModuleFileNameA() + 0x1b4 bytes

....Silverlight, anyone?

W3bbo
The Master of Baiters

And after uninstalling Silverlight FF no-longer crashes.

Go figure Smiley

Dodo
I'm your creativity creator™ :)

Well, we all don't really like Firefox, do we?
You know... I had this weird CSS problem with my forums I'm coding at. Wink

I'm even thinking to be evil and move stuffs in firefox off screen with the same code IE displays fine...

But well, maybe it's not silverlight but rather another thing silverlight is using... you know... the .NET stuffs maybe?

W3bbo
The Master of Baiters

Dodo wrote:
But well, maybe it's not silverlight but rather another thing silverlight is using... you know... the .NET stuffs maybe?

Silverlight 1.0 doesn't use .NET at all.

webmonkey
How am i supposed to code with theeeeeese ?

Just tried it and all is fine here.

Watching a silverlight video on the c9 homepage in FF.

Dodo
I'm your creativity creator™ :)

W3bbo wrote:

Silverlight 1.0 doesn't use .NET at all.

Hmm ok... than this was the other way round... if you're funny to... whatever, I'm not using it either, it's too slow.

stevo_
Human after all

Dodo wrote:

W3bbo wrote:
Silverlight 1.0 doesn't use .NET at all.
Hmm ok... than this was the other way round... if you're funny to... whatever, I'm not using it either, it's too slow.

Make sense much? Wink

Dodo
I'm your creativity creator™ :)

stevo_ wrote:

Dodo wrote:

W3bbo wrote:
Silverlight 1.0 doesn't use .NET at all.
Hmm ok... than this was the other way round... if you're funny to... whatever, I'm not using it either, it's too slow.

Make sense much?

huh?

stevo_
Human after all

Exactly.

Ion Todirel
buuu

it's not the first time when Silverlight its crashing firefox on my machine and its not only C9

Dodo
I'm your creativity creator™ :)

stevo_ wrote:

Exactly.

Whatever you're talking about, I don't get it, because I can't conclude in any logical way to understand you. I am psychic, but it used to be useless via the internets...
Silverlight is slow, try it on a 700MHz PC and freak out!

stevo_
Human after all

I know silverlight 1 isnt that fast, trying it on a 700mhz PC is very unfair however..

But my point was your fragment didnt make much sense.. I read it over and over trying to find a typo but I didn't get it..

GoddersUK
I CAN has cheezburger and you CAN'T has stop me!

W3bbo wrote:
Silverlight 1.0 doesn't use .NET at all.

Who needs silverlight or .net? Desktop search does all this for you.

It's the only programme you CLueLESS people will ever need.

Tongue Out

It'll even crash firefox for you.

Dodo
I'm your creativity creator™ :)

stevo_ wrote:

I know silverlight 1 isnt that fast, trying it on a 700mhz PC is very unfair however..

It's fair, think about those ultraportables with extraordinary long accu power... they have those lowend Via CPUs.

stevo_ wrote:

But my point was your fragment didnt make much sense.. I read it over and over trying to find a typo but I didn't get it..

I mistook Silverlight usage in conjunction with .NET (wrong way around). Perplexed

And then I said, I'm not using it anyway, because it's slow. Anymore explanations needed?

Rowan
Look, no errors.

Dodo wrote:
if you're funny to...

That's where you lost me.

Tongue Out

vesuvius
Das Glasperlenspiel

Very strange? I don't get a crash, just a blank screen.

The banner is visible with 'done' in the bottom left. Works In IE though.

JChung2006

Meh, Gmail crashes Firefox regularly for me, Silverlight or not. I'm not too impressed with its stability any more.

blowdart
Peek-a-boo

Channel8 crashes Firefox for me on a regular basis, by killing the SilverLight plugin. But it's not regular enough to work out exactly what is doing it.

RichardRudek
So what do you expect for nothin'... :P

W3bbo wrote:
Silverlight\npctrl.1.0.21115.0.dll'

I believe the latest version of Silverlight 1.0 is 1.0.30109.0

EDIT: I also think there's a problem with the silverlight download/update service, at the moment.

Plus on one of my systems, on the silverlight front page (http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/default_ns.aspx#4_0), the errors within the page are increasing at a steady rate. Like, it's up to 850 errors, increasing by one for each second or so...