SP1 for technical users in Feb | The Coffeehouse

blowdart
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http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2008/02/11/windows-vista-sp1-availability-for-technical-customers.aspx

So not for me then (in before someone else says it)

Bas
It finds lightbulbs.

Hmm. I'm neither an MSDN/Technet subscriber, nor an SP1 betatester. Damn.

blowdart
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But why won't he list what drivers are troublesome? How can we make a decision if we won't know what kills it.

intelman

With the RTM release my dell bluetooth drivers really freaked out. systeminfo wouldn't pull up because the drivers failed, some things about bluetooth would work, others wouldn't. The solution is simple, reinstall the driver.

While waiting for the service pack is hard, and rather unfortunite, I think it is best to delay the release to the general public. I think Microsoft wants to avoid the press and users saying that SP1 FUBAR'd their machines because some drivers were improperly written. People are quick to criticize, Microsoft will never get praised for SP1, only ridiculed.

dahat

I just finished putting SP1 on my desktop and much to my surprise my audio still works (the existing Vista driver is quite bad and requires me restarting the audio service from time to time)... now onto my MCE box and the laptop.

YearOfTheLinuxDesktop
Seven of Niner! Resistance is Futile!

what's the problem with the drivers? you can reinstall them after you install SP1

dahat

YearOfTheLinuxDesktop wrote:
what's the problem with the drivers? you can reinstall them after you install SP1

Some drivers apparently no longer work after SP1 is installed... part of the reason for the delay is giving Microsoft a chance to identify these drivers and tell the OEMs and get updated drivers into the system.

blowdart
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YearOfTheLinuxDesktop wrote:
what's the problem with the drivers? you can reinstall them after you install SP1

What if it kills your nic, and you don't have the drivers locally?

W3bbo
The Master of Baiters

blowdart wrote:

YearOfTheLinuxDesktop wrote:what's the problem with the drivers? you can reinstall them after you install SP1

What if it kills your nic, and you don't have the drivers locally?

There's a VESA 640x480 mode for video so if crap hits the fan, you can still startx or get Explorer up on Windows.

Is there anything similar for NICs? Bare-bones 100mbps ethernet?

blowdart
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YearOfTheLinuxDesktop wrote:

blowdart wrote:
YearOfTheLinuxDesktop wrote:what's the problem with the drivers? you can reinstall them after you install SP1

What if it kills your nic, and you don't have the drivers locally?

I reinstall them from the place I got them the first time?

Which is where on a preinstalled machine?

YearOfTheLinuxDesktop
Seven of Niner! Resistance is Futile!

blowdart wrote:

YearOfTheLinuxDesktop wrote:what's the problem with the drivers? you can reinstall them after you install SP1

What if it kills your nic, and you don't have the drivers locally?

I reinstall them from the place I got them the first time? knowing that some drivers may fail to reinstall I would make sure to have backups of them

YearOfTheLinuxDesktop
Seven of Niner! Resistance is Futile!

blowdart wrote:

YearOfTheLinuxDesktop wrote:
blowdart wrote:
YearOfTheLinuxDesktop wrote:what's the problem with the drivers? you can reinstall them after you install SP1

What if it kills your nic, and you don't have the drivers locally?

I reinstall them from the place I got them the first time?

Which is where on a preinstalled machine?

from the C:\windows\inf\ folder, or I could go in the device manager and reinstall them by hand. the install won't fail, it could fail only during the update

blowdart
Peek-a-boo

YearOfTheLinuxDesktop wrote:

from the C:\windows\inf\ folder, or I could go in the device manager and reinstall them by hand. the install won't fail, it fails only during the update

What if the problem is with your SATA controller driver?

W3bbo
The Master of Baiters

blowdart wrote:

YearOfTheLinuxDesktop wrote:

from the C:\windows\inf\ folder, or I could go in the device manager and reinstall them by hand. the install won't fail, it fails only during the update

What if the problem is with your SATA controller driver?

"Press F6 to boot with a custom RAID or SCSI driver"

blowdart
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W3bbo wrote:

blowdart wrote:
YearOfTheLinuxDesktop wrote:

from the C:\windows\inf\ folder, or I could go in the device manager and reinstall them by hand. the install won't fail, it fails only during the update

What if the problem is with your SATA controller driver?

"Press F6 to boot with a custom RAID or SCSI driver"

Assuming you have it.

I can't blame MS for working with the driver manufacturers and pushing updates down via windowsupdate before SP1

YearOfTheLinuxDesktop
Seven of Niner! Resistance is Futile!

blowdart wrote:

YearOfTheLinuxDesktop wrote:

from the C:\windows\inf\ folder, or I could go in the device manager and reinstall them by hand. the install won't fail, it fails only during the update

What if the problem is with your SATA controller driver?

assuming you have an AHCI controller (90% of the ones available on the market) you don't need any driver.

SP1 also includes a lot more drivers, if some of your drivers gets removed during the update they will almost surely be replaced by the ones included in the SP1 unless you have some uncommon piece of hardware nobody ever heard about