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Rossj

Irascian put me onto this site (through the DailyDotNetShow) which appears to be Soapbox but re-branded.

Is Soapbox doing so badly that there is an attempt to re-brand it? Why is the branding not 'Live'? If it is an educational resource, why is it not in one of the (far too many) marketing sites such as C8/9/10?

PerfectPhase
"This is not war, this is pest control!" - Dalek to Cyberman

Rossj wrote:
Irascian put me onto this site (through the DailyDotNetShow) which appears to be Soapbox but re-branded.

Is Soapbox doing so badly that there is an attempt to re-brand it? Why is the branding not 'Live'? If it is an educational resource, why is it not in one of the (far too many) marketing sites such as C8/9/10?

Na, just looks like a central site for all microsoft produced video assets to me.

GoddersUK
I CAN has cheezburger and you CAN'T has stop me!

Your link's broke.

http://preview.microsoft.com/video/

irascian
Irascible Ian

Some (but not much) background information on the new video site here

I think this is more about consolidating internal videos. At the moment it's all over the place. C8/9/10 and then there are things like MIX University, WPF Boot Camp, Firestarter, Webcasts etc etc.

It all gets very confusing very quickly. Especially when you can remember seeing something good but can't remember where you saw it!

At MIX08 I got the sense that there is a lot of internal competition within Microsoft for video (I may be over-reacting to a comment or two from different Microsofties), plus of course you have individual bloggers doing their own screencasts on their blogs, on top of stuff like dotnetvideos.net and the official "How do I" asp.net screencasts - just trying to keep track of all the URLS for these "learning resource videos" is horrific.

PaoloM
Hypermediocrity

Rossj wrote:
Why is the branding not 'Live'?

Just to clarify this, Live is the separate branding for tools and service that augment Windows.

Content is available via MSN, while this site looks like an horizontal consolidation of video assets.

Rossj

PaoloM wrote:

Just to clarify this, Live is the separate branding for tools and service that augment Windows.

Content is available via MSN

Live == Services && MSN == Content.

Right.

Got it.

Does anyone else know about this? Would it be worth telling them? Tongue Out

PaoloM wrote:
while this site looks like an horizontal consolidation of video assets.

A single feed to get updates across all of the windows sites would be useful - especially if it lets me specify my interests and get a personalised feed. I'm not holding my breath though.

PaoloM
Hypermediocrity

Rossj wrote:

PaoloM wrote:
Just to clarify this, Live is the separate branding for tools and service that augment Windows.

Content is available via MSN

Live == Services && MSN == Content.

Right.

Got it.

Perfect

Rossj wrote:
Does anyone else know about this? Would it be worth telling them?

I honestly have no idea why this isn't more widely known. I knew about the difference before joining Microsoft, but I guess people just don't care...

Actually, I have an idea about this, and it's not a particularly nice thought for our marketing Smiley

Rossj

PaoloM wrote:
it's not a particularly nice thought for our marketing

You have a marketing team?!?!

PaoloM
Hypermediocrity

Rossj wrote:

PaoloM wrote: it's not a particularly nice thought for our marketing

You have a marketing team?!?!

I see what you've done here, and I'll fight back with a classic move:

Pon

PaoloM wrote:

Rossj wrote:

PaoloM wrote: it's not a particularly nice thought for our marketing

You have a marketing team?!?!

I see what you've done here, and I'll fight back with a classic move:

DO WANT

Rossj

I've got the blueberry one, but if anyone has a spare one of those floating about - I'll take it. I'll even swap you with something beige if you want.

magicalclick

Maybe it is based on silverlight. And just like everyone else said, it seems like a MS internal video website. It looks very technical from that tiny screenshot.

HumanCompiler
Compiling humans...and code

Rossj wrote:

PaoloM wrote: while this site looks like an horizontal consolidation of video assets.

A single feed to get updates across all of the windows sites would be useful - especially if it lets me specify my interests and get a personalised feed. I'm not holding my breath though.

FYI, that's where we're going with 'Microsoft Communities'. It's basically an aggregate data store of our stuff, ASP.NET, IIS.NET, Silverlight.NET, etc. We're working on APIs so you all (and anybody else for that matter) can write apps against all this data. Our Microsoft Communities Facebook application is the first "app" written against all this data. The Community Bar across the top of all our sites is also using that data.

We're not limited to just video either. Smiley

/we not competing [A]

Rossj

please tell me there is a defined ontology? Please ...