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jamie
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Microsoft's Revenue, 4Q Outlook Disappoint the Street

http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9928175-56.html?tag=nefd.top

"Weakness in the Windows unit and the Microsoft Business Division, which includes Office, ...."

edit: http://msftextrememakeover.blogspot.com/

although mac sales are up 50%...

""Microsoft is not out there marketing Vista at all, and you got Apple constantly popping up and pointing to problems with Vista. So people go into stores and trying [Macs] and end up liking them," he said. "

http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3742731/The+Economy+May+be+Rotten+But+Apple+Isnt.htm

oh well... there's always Live Mess ... err i mean..

ManipUni
Proving QQ for 5 years!

Hmm shocking but piracy? Seriously? ...

My theory is a combination of:
- MSN Music being a complete failure
- Partners running from the DRM sinking ship
- Mac's doing better on the desktop, Linux still strong on small servers
- Windows Vista tanked
- US Economy is in a slump and nobody is paying out for pointless pretty software with no substance like Vista
- Visual Studio 08 failed to offer anything too interesting
- Office 2007's new UI that nobody can use / likes

... Just my theory of course...

Maybe Microsoft should fire the 1/3 of their workforce which are in sales and or marketing and pick up a few more actual developers.

jamie
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...or designers..

haha - i love the ribbon - but i was ready to unistall it this week as i couldnt work powerpoint.. (*note to ms - leave in the old - but bring in the new - together!)

another issue is - as mary jo mentions:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1361

how does mesh - mesh - with Y!OS ?

it doesnt.

yahoo is just an eyeball buy anyway.. so forget LIVE! and call everything Windows (and eat yahoo if you must) Wink

jamie
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there seem to be some ... "happier" headlines around now (like on cnn money) but over all they arnt happy it seems

**this branding issue stuff and advertising issue stuff .. and naming issue stuff is starting to show its impact?

edit: should live mess ..i mean mesh just be called Windows Live - like the real version?

The first windows live hasnt exactly been... as ..popular as other things..

i dont get mess (mesh) but could see "fixing" windows live with this new thing

*although id just call it Windows personally.

one word.. windows. windows.com (all the live stuff - without the live brand) to use it you need... yup windows - and IE (sorry)

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edit: sorry last thought... it doesnt matter if its saas or s+s
windows should be one thing.. not a separate part for the internet (live).. windows needs to be be known as the internet as is

perhaps the stock would have gone up had they announced "Windows.com" this week .. but who knows..

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DCMonkey
Monkey see, monkey do, monkey will destroy you!

ManipUni wrote:

Hmm shocking but piracy? Seriously? ...

My theory is a combination of:
- MSN Music being a complete failure
- Partners running from the DRM sinking ship
- Mac's doing better on the desktop, ~~Linux still strong on small servers~~
- Windows Vista tanked
- US Economy is in a slump and nobody is paying out for pointless pretty software with no substance like Vista
~~- Visual Studio 08 failed to offer anything too interesting~~
- Office 2007's new UI that nobody can use / likes

Entertainment, Server and Tools are up over the same period last year. The piracy thing is about Vista and Office, the software that tanked and that nobody likes, repectively.

Bass
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.

ManipUni wrote:

- Mac's doing better on the desktop, Linux still strong on small servers
- Windows Vista tanked

I think these are probably the top two reasons. I'd rate piracy somewhere above "slump in death metal music sales" and below "excessive consumption of complementary chocolate milk on campus". But then again IANAME. (I am not a Microsoft executive)

Bass
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.

Well, congratulations to all the people who had the forsight to sell MSFT short today I guess.

Ray6

Piracy?

You mean after all that money and effort spent on the WGA and they reckon piracy is the problem?

Could it be perhaps a lack of compelling products together with exhorbitant prices?

BruceMorgan

Bass wrote:

ManipUni wrote:

- Mac's doing better on the desktop, Linux still strong on small servers
- Windows Vista tanked

I think these are probably the top two reasons. I'd rate piracy somewhere above "slump in death metal music sales" and below "excessive consumption of complementary chocolate milk on campus". But then again IANAME. (I am not a Microsoft executive)

Couldn't be the chocolate milk. The provider of our chocolate milk is getting out of that business, and the chocolate milk from the new provider uses high fructose corn syrup.

It's been a minor ruckus among those people who care about that sort of thing. Long mail diatribes. I wouldn't be surprised of campus wide, chocolate milk consumption is down.

phreaks

BruceMorgan wrote:

Bass wrote:

ManipUni wrote:

- Mac's doing better on the desktop, Linux still strong on small servers
- Windows Vista tanked

I think these are probably the top two reasons. I'd rate piracy somewhere above "slump in death metal music sales" and below "excessive consumption of complementary chocolate milk on campus". But then again IANAME. (I am not a Microsoft executive)

Couldn't be the chocolate milk. The provider of our chocolate milk is getting out of that business, and the chocolate milk from the new provider uses high fructose corn syrup.

It's been a minor ruckus among those people who care about that sort of thing. Long mail diatribes. I wouldn't be surprised of campus wide, chocolate milk consumption is down.