Anyone a bit uncomfortable with the fact that Live Mesh uses Passport? | The Coffeehouse

DevilsRejection
addicted to rss

I love the idea behind Live Mesh, I genuinely feel that it is the future of the internet, the whole concept of writing applications for a mesh of data and devices as opposed to one device with one set of data is totally amazing!

But, and this is a big but, everyone who wants to use this needs a Microsoft Passport to use it. Shouldn't there be a general identity API so that people who want to use their Yahoo ID or their OpenID or their WordPress Login, Typepad, etc. etc. be able to use the login they've been using forever?

Just throwing it out there.

stevo_
Human after all

Not really since this is Microsofts vision, it would be hard to get the idea off the ground with massive colaboration like that..

But give the idea some time, and just as it is now with anything Microsoft made.. everyone will think they should have their rightful part of it, and the mesh will be forced to be more open (if it isn't already by then).

blowdart
Peek-a-boo

Open ID doesn't do authentication from within software, only web pages. So what else can they use? (Aside from CardSpace)

W3bbo
The Master of Baiters

blowdart wrote:
Open ID doesn't do authentication from within software, only web pages. So what else can they use? (Aside from CardSpace)

Turn it into a marketable product or as an add-on for SharePoint and authenticate against Active Directory, no Windows Live involved whatsoever.

...then I'd use it.

blowdart
Peek-a-boo

W3bbo wrote:

blowdart wrote:Open ID doesn't do authentication from within software, only web pages. So what else can they use? (Aside from CardSpace)

Turn it into a marketable product or as an add-on for SharePoint and authenticate against Active Directory, no Windows Live involved whatsoever.

...then I'd use it.

And we're back to "what is Groove" again

wisemx
Live it

I like the fact that it uses our Live IDs but I would like to use CardSpace with it.
Hopefully I can tie it into my Windows Server 2008 servers with CardSpace.
*On which I'm already using CardSpace, because it's so handy.

blowdart
Peek-a-boo

wisemx wrote:
I like the fact that it uses our Live IDs but I would like to use CardSpace with it.
Hopefully I can tie it into my Windows Server 2008 servers with CardSpace.
*On which I'm already using CardSpace, because it's so handy.

Problem is CardSpace isn't that cross platform. Spawning up a selector on a Mac might be possible, but it's implementation dependant and I don't think the Bandit people have done that yet. Then there's mobile support ....

W3bbo
The Master of Baiters

blowdart wrote:

W3bbo wrote:
blowdart wrote:Open ID doesn't do authentication from within software, only web pages. So what else can they use? (Aside from CardSpace)

Turn it into a marketable product or as an add-on for SharePoint and authenticate against Active Directory, no Windows Live involved whatsoever.

...then I'd use it.

And we're back to "what is Groove" again

Groove is for collaboration, not "Sharing with oneself", and it lacks the developer API of Mesh for Mesh applications.

blowdart
Peek-a-boo

W3bbo wrote:

Groove is for collaboration, not "Sharing with oneself", and it lacks the developer API of Mesh for Mesh applications.

Oh you certainly can share with "oneself" with groove. And the Mesh API isn't there yet.

Add to that Ozzie's comment of the web as a hub rather than the platform everyone else knows it is; well, it all smacks of groove on steriods.

Yggdrasil
Pour me a cab, 'cause I can't drink no more.

Uncomfortable? No more than I feel uncomfortable with using my Google account for GMail/Picasa/GoogleReader, or my Yahoo account for Flickr, or my Livejournal account for Livejournal.

If there was any sort of progress in a unified authentication mechanism on the web that Microsoft was ignoring, I might have agreed. But as it is, Microsoft are playing the game as it is usually played.