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Bas
It finds lightbulbs.

Weird wrote:
My post with the Badvista picture was edited andnow instead of pic and web address there is written "spam". Why? Did i wirte there something what is not allowed?

What do you know of the FSF and the badvista campaign?

GoddersUK wrote:

Bas wrote: Guys, can we sort of... raise the tone of conversation a bit?

Now why would we want to do that?

Because I'd hate it if this sort of thing chased away the people that actually have something interesting to say.

Weird

Bas wrote:

Weird wrote:My post with the Badvista picture was edited andnow instead of pic and web address there is written "spam". Why? Did i wirte there something what is not allowed?

What do you know of the FSF and the badvista campaign?

GoddersUK wrote:

Bas wrote: Guys, can we sort of... raise the tone of conversation a bit?

Now why would we want to do that?

Because I'd hate it if this sort of thing chased away the people that actually have something interesting to say.

As far as i know they say people on that site "Vista is bad - don't use it". FSF is Free Software Foundation. Or not?
At the very beginning of everything normal people know today about computers the many students at versities thought that software has to be free. Bill Gates thought it is ok to sell software for money. Don't know so exactly about FSF itself, but GNU was founded AFAIK by Richard Stallman and others.

Koogle
I'm a Terminator - Astalavista, Vis7a!

Dovella wrote:

Weird wrote:  badvista.fsf.org

"My post with the Badvista picture was edited andnow instead of pic and web address there is written "spam". Why? Did i wirte there something what is not allowed?"

awww .....

don't worry I've quoted part of your previous post aswell so your message wasn't complety lost yet Smiley

and I complety agree with putting bad apples in the bin aswel Dovella

Bas
It finds lightbulbs.

Weird wrote:
As far as i know they say people on that site "Vista is bad - don't use it". FSF is Free Software Foundation. Or not?
At the very beginning of everything normal people know today about computers the many students at versities thought that software has to be free. Bill Gates thought it is ok to sell software for money. Don't know so exactly about FSF itself, but GNU was founded AFAIK by Richard Stallman and others.

See? You know next to nothing about the badvista campaign or what the FSF does, yet you post a picture and a link to it as if it's going to prove your point. That sets off a bunch of "this guy has no idea what he's talking about and is just some kid trying to be a rebel" alarm bells in people's head, which causes them to mark your post as spam.

Weird

Koogle wrote:

Dovella wrote:

Weird wrote:  badvista.fsf.org

"My post with the Badvista picture was edited andnow instead of pic and web address there is written "spam". Why? Did i wirte there something what is not allowed?"

awww .....

_don't worry I've quoted part of your previous post aswell so your message wasn't complety lost yet _

and I complety agree with putting bad apples in the bin aswel Dovella

thanks!

Dovella
Go Microsoft !!!!!!!

ok edit

Bas
It finds lightbulbs.

Huh.. apparently there's going to be some Windows 7 related thing at All Things Digital this tuesday. I hope they're not forgetting about the whole underpromise/overdeliver thing.

Dovella
Go Microsoft !!!!!!!

Bas wrote:
Huh.. apparently there's going to be some Windows 7 related thing at All Things Digital this tuesday. I hope they're not forgetting about the whole underpromise/overdeliver thing.

Incredible

see the list

Bill Gates | Chairman, Microsoft

Steve Ballmer | CEO, Microsoft

Mark Zuckerberg | CEO, Facebook

Sheryl Sandberg | COO, Facebook

Michael Dell | Chairman and CEO, Dell

Howard Stringer | Chairman and CEO, Sony

Jeff Bezos | Chairman and CEO, Amazon.com

Barry Diller | Chairman and CEO, IAC

Jeff Bewkes | President and CEO, Time Warner

Kevin Martin | Chairman, Federal Communications Commission

Tom Glocer | CEO, Thomson Reuters Corp.

Tom Rogers | President and CEO, TiVo

Robert Kotick | Chairman and CEO, Activision

Melinda Gates | Co-chair, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation

Nathan Myhrvold | CEO, Intellectual Ventures

Lowell McAdam | President and CEO, Verizon Wireless

Rupert Murdoch | Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, News Corporation

Jerry Yang | Co-Founder and CEO, Yahoo

Sue Decker | President, Yahoo

RoyalSchrubber
One. How many time travellers does it take to change a lightbulb?

Weird wrote:
yo c'mon - we all know what was with Longhorn and Vista. Noone wanna buy Vista, users and OEM prefer to work with the old good ( "Everything is relative" - Einstein) XP. Google badvista.

Badvista is FSF-run operation that tries to badmouth Vista. And FSF is cover organisation deeply connected with GNU and its mastermind - Stallman. Compared to the content on this site Apple's site look totally innocent. You would think organization of this size that tries to act as mother to all open source movement has some some standards, but they don't, they rely on cheap smearing of their competitors.
You might wonder why there's all this harmony in user comments section, why everybody agrees with each other - FSF is censuring comments. I tried twice, I posted two comments, and I was extra careful comment were not flammable but they were both deleted in minutes.

FSF, slashdot and similar consist of primarily two kinds of people:
douches that have too low standards and don't mind posting straight lies and douches that believe them. The only problem is people that know don't fight for truth as they are overwhelmed by the other side. Besides debating with foss zealots is usually ridiculous.

BHpaddock

I'm surprised that what's on that site isn't considered libel. It blatantly misrepresents the facts about a competitors product (in this case, Vista).

What bothers me more though is that some people actually think it's real.

Ramble

Hypocricy much? The FSF may censor some comments but then so did Channel9. No party is amazing, contrary to popular belief, neither the FSF or Microsoft have light shining from their anus'.

RoyalSchrubber
One. How many time travellers does it take to change a lightbulb?

Ramble wrote:
Hypocricy much? The FSF may censor some comments but then so did Channel9. No party is amazing, contrary to popular belief, neither the FSF or Microsoft have light shining from their anus'.

Actually before spam function, which is /user controlled/, there was no censure on Channel 9. It's crowd bullying, not MS. So yes, in that respect light is actually shining from C9's cyber-anus.

Also, to C9 admins: afaik spam feature was implemented to control commercial spam, not to stop controversial posts.

I want all Weird's posts back (if only) so that I can continue pointing fingers at FSF. Troll's right to make trolling posts however ridiculous or disrespectful they might be shall not be infringed. I want old C9 back, with tolerance to Corona-type nuts!!

BHpaddock

Ramble wrote:
Hypocricy much? The FSF may censor some comments but then so did Channel9. No party is amazing, contrary to popular belief, neither the FSF or Microsoft have light shining from their anus'.

This isn't about censoring comments. Censoring comments on a private forum is one thing, and perfectly legitimate / legal. It might not be the best public relations decision, but that's another issue entirely.

Libel is an entirely different matter. Basically that would be like Microsoft putting up a website that said "Ubuntu 8.04 is full of spyware that will sell all your personal information to Google, MySpace, and other advertising companies. All this spyware makes it slower than past versions and gives it higher hardware requirements. Ubuntu says they're because of XGL and other new technology, but really it's just all the spyware. And evil DRM. That will delete your mp3s. Also, its screensavers cause seizures that kill small children. Ubuntu kills children. If you buy it, you support killing children."

Clearly, that wouldn't go over too well. And yet the FSF gets away with doing the exact same thing. So who is the hypocrite?

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RoyalSchrubber wrote:

Weird wrote:yo c'mon - we all know what was with Longhorn and Vista. Noone wanna buy Vista, users and OEM prefer to work with the old good ( "Everything is relative" - Einstein) XP. Google badvista.

Badvista is FSF-run operation that tries to badmouth Vista. And FSF is cover organisation deeply connected with GNU and its mastermind - Stallman. Compared to the content on this site Apple's site look totally innocent. You would think organization of this size that tries to act as mother to all open source movement has some some standards, but they don't, they rely on cheap smearing of their competitors.
You might wonder why there's all this harmony in user comments section, why everybody agrees with each other - FSF is censuring comments. I tried twice, I posted two comments, and I was extra careful comment were not flammable but they were both deleted in minutes.

FSF, slashdot and similar consist of primarily two kinds of people:
douches that have too low standards and don't mind posting straight lies and douches that believe them. The only problem is people that know don't fight for truth as they are overwhelmed by the other side. Besides debating with foss zealots is usually ridiculous.

Cover organisation? FSF is GNU (or, to be more specific, the not-for-profit responisble for the maintenance of the GNU project, among other things). Stallman's the FSF president and the founder of the GNU project.

Sure, I don't agree with most of what Stallman and the FSF espouse, but calling it a "cover organisation" for the GNU makes this all sound a lot more conspiratorial and evil than it is. It's just a bunch of people with a different vision of how the software industry should work than Microsoft has.

Bass
www.spreadfirefox.com/5years/

Windows development = yawn

Dovella
Go Microsoft !!!!!!!

pls. now stop off topic

back in topic

will also be available the official team blog windows 7 like windows vista ?????????

Dovella
Go Microsoft !!!!!!!

Bass wrote:
Windows development = yawn

ok

Bass
www.spreadfirefox.com/5years/

Dovella wrote:

Bass wrote:Windows development = yawn

ok

wut u says?!!!

7 windows is god os, commming out two years

i wait cant!!!!!!!!!!!!1111oneone //todo: add more "!!!!!"

Big Smile

Dovella
Go Microsoft !!!!!!!

Bass wrote:

Dovella wrote:

Bass wrote: Windows development = yawn

ok

wut u says?!!!

7 windows is god os, commming out two years

i wait cant!!!!!!!!!!!!1111oneone //todo: add more "!!!!!"

2 year ?? you have a timeline of 7 ?? WOW.

i can wait Wink

PaoloM
Hypermediocrity

Bass wrote:
Dovella said:
Bass wrote:Windows development = yawn

ok

wut u says?!!!

7 windows is god os, commming out two years

i wait cant!!!!!!!!!!!!1111oneone //todo: add more "!!!!!"

unless you can reply in a decent Italian, consider yourself owned.

PaoloM
Hypermediocrity

Breaking news: iPhone's Safari sucks. Oh wait, that's not news at all! Smiley

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PaoloM wrote:
Breaking news: iPhone's Safari sucks. Oh wait, that's not news at all!

Breaking news: it's not Safari's fault, it's bad browser detection code on C9's end.