Ed Bott reports on the first signs of the
Microsoft fightback.
Early days, but I'm glad that they didn't try for a direct assault on Apple; that's precisely what Cupertino is looking for.
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CKurt
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NICE !
They have every right to do this , they are right ! -
Bas
It finds lightbulbs.
Not as strong as Apple's "Vista sucks", but following that road would only lead Microsoft to disaster. I think this is the best way: acknowledging the popular opinion, and then pointing out where we are today. I also like this:
Windows website said:When Windows Vista debuted in January 2007, we declared it the best operating system we had ever made. “Windows Vista is beautiful,” The New York Times raved. It’s humbling that millions of you agree.
But we know a few of you were disappointed by your early encounter. Printers didn’t work. Games felt sluggish. You told us—loudly at times—that the latest Windows wasn’t always living up to your high expectations for a Microsoft product.
We know that’s what some people are saying on the Internet. And in its early days, Windows Vista did experience some compatibility problems. But thanks to our industry partners’ efforts during the past 18 months, here’s where things stand today.
I think that's a good idea. Again, not just shutting your ears to popular opinion and going "Look, 180 million licenses sold. We have flip3d and it's more secure", but acknowledging what people are saying and pointing out where they're wrong. -
littleguru
<3 Seattle
Cool graphics!
Awesome... let's hope marketing really kicks in this time. -
SaraJoRedux
GirlDeveloper.com
littleguru said:Cool graphics! Awesome... let's hope marketing really kicks in this time.I can't wait to be watching my television and yelling "BOOYA"
it's the little things in life. -
"Vista is now actually better than its reputation."
Even though I think it's alright, its reputation is pretty lousy (but improving I've noticed). So being better than that isn't saying much.
What still annoys me to no end is Vista file explorer has a random column/view type behaviour that seems to be either extremely easy or hard to repro. (Easy here) It's a regression in Vista due to changes they made and I suppose it'd be trivial to fix with a source on hand but yeah that argument will go nowhere. -
mVPstar
I'm white because I smelt an onion.
SaraJoRedux said:littleguru said:*snip*I can't wait to be watching my television and yelling "BOOYA"
it's the little things in life.SaraJoRedux said:I can't wait to be watching my television and yelling "BOOYA"
To actually see a Vista ad on tv would be something...
Can't wait for more of this new marketing. -
mVPstar said:SaraJoRedux said:*snip*
To actually see a Vista ad on tv would be something...
Can't wait for more of this new marketing.Speaking of marketing what marketing blurb this year has you waiting in anticipation of some product? I would say the Omnisphere namm videos on youtube and the company site. The marketing guy (& ceo) literally hypnotizes you with his eyes and the sounds are quite magical at times too so the product might be good too. No kidding I watched that marketing blurb maybe 10 times in a row and then come back to it. Can't wait for september..
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stevo_
Human after all
Vista was always better than its rep.. I really could spend a lot of time trying to work out why it got hammered so fast as to be a failure.. I put it down to the fact that when people talk about Vista, they aren't actually thinking about Vista.. their thinking about all the bad press... all those little problems (dunno; imagine someone posting that their rechargable keyboard batteries ran out the day they installed vista... coincidence?!).. and the crap about it being a failure before anyone saw it, just because its was the OS that was made to cover a failure..androidi said:"Vista is now actually better than its reputation."
Even though I think it's alright, its reputation is pretty lousy (but improving I've noticed). So being better than that isn't saying much.
What still annoys me to no end is Vista file explorer has a random column/view type behaviour that seems to be either extremely easy or hard to repro. (Easy here) It's a regression in Vista due to changes they made and I suppose it'd be trivial to fix with a source on hand but yeah that argument will go nowhere.
It was doomed to be a marketing failure years before it even saw the light of day.. quite a shame really. -
SaraJoRedux
GirlDeveloper.com
I agree 100%, I love vista.... bit of a learning curve but that's it.stevo_ said:
Vista was always better than its rep.. I really could spend a lot of time trying to work out why it got hammered so fast as to be a failure.. I put it down to the fact that when people talk about Vista, they aren't actually thinking about Vista.. their thinking about all the bad press... all those little problems (dunno; imagine someone posting that their rechargable keyboard batteries ran out the day they installed vista... coincidence?!).. and the crap about it being a failure before anyone saw it, just because its was the OS that was made to cover a failure..androidi said:*snip*
It was doomed to be a marketing failure years before it even saw the light of day.. quite a shame really.
People are predisposed to dislike anything Microsoft
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Dovella
Go Microsoft !!!!!!!
littleguru said:Cool graphics! Awesome... let's hope marketing really kicks in this time.Things have changed
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mVPstar
I'm white because I smelt an onion.
...Dovella said:littleguru said:*snip*Things have changed
Champagne!
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Dovella
Go Microsoft !!!!!!!
I wanted a strong message , and my friend Rocco leaves well understand the situationmVPstar said:
...Dovella said:*snip*
Champagne!
with a spot done so, the mac user remain upset
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Androidi - That was fixed in SP1. If you have a repro on a clean install of SP1, well, that's something we've been unable to duplicate in-house. It was hard enough to get it to happen on Vista RTM, and the finding the fix was far from trivial.androidi said:"Vista is now actually better than its reputation."
Even though I think it's alright, its reputation is pretty lousy (but improving I've noticed). So being better than that isn't saying much.
What still annoys me to no end is Vista file explorer has a random column/view type behaviour that seems to be either extremely easy or hard to repro. (Easy here) It's a regression in Vista due to changes they made and I suppose it'd be trivial to fix with a source on hand but yeah that argument will go nowhere. -
Bass
I need better writers.
It's refreshing that Microsoft is finally admitting failure on Vista. That takes a bit of courage I think.
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Jsoh
:::Windows 8 Style UI :::
Arrrrr, prepare to be boarded by Flip3d(tm) and wizards galore!
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Bas
It finds lightbulbs.
I think you may want to read that article again.Bass said:It's refreshing that Microsoft is finally admitting failure on Vista. That takes a bit of courage I think.
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Maddus Mattus
Maddus on C9, Is often controversial, But fun none-the-less -evildictaitor
Beware!!! There be Apples of the port bow,...JoshRoss said:Arrrrr, prepare to be boarded by Flip3d(tm) and wizards galore!
YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrr
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