Posted By: jason818_253.33 | Nov 17th, 2008 @ 12:20 PM
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Harlequin
Harlequin
http://twitter.c​om/TrueHarlequin
Sweet Winona Ryder Smiley
DCMonkey
DCMonkey
Monkey see, monkey do, monkey will destroy you!
I took that as an exclamation, like "Sweet Zombie Jesus!". Or maybe he's talking about the new Spock Smiley

I'm afraid. This might turn out to be a good restart of the franchise, or it may end up being a typical entertaining yet forgettable FX-laden action flick with a thin veneer of Star Trek sprayed on top. Or it could just be plain bad. I can't tell yet. The fact that the story invloves time travel doesn't give me hope.



Precisely. I stopped watching Enterprise when they introduced time travel.

Time travel is a very slippery slope, and is rarely done well.
PerfectPhase
PerfectPhase
"This is not war, this is pest control!" - Dalek to Cyberman

I think I'm starting to see things, need more sleep...

  vs 
harumscarum
harumscarum
out of memory
SOB...the Dr has been lying to us for all these years!
rjdohnert
rjdohnert
You will never know success until you know failure
I dont know, I just dont know.

I look at that trainwreck of a movie and I think.... F$%^&*()$##@#$%^CK!!!!!!!!!!

Do I wait for the dollar fifty theatre?  or just wait for the DVD release.
Sven Groot
Sven Groot
My name has 9 letters. Coincidence? I think not...
Not really enough information to tell yet. It could be a decent movie, or it could be disastrous. Let's not forget that, all pretenses that it's a restart aside, this is an odd-numbered movie. Tongue Out

I'll do what I'll always do: I'll see it, ignore any and all critics (except Tim Lynch; but the odds of him starting Star Trek reviews again aren't very high Tongue Out ), and make up my own mind.
TommyCarlier
TommyCarlier
I want my scalps!

What? Make up your own mind? That's lame.

PS: Go to 00:01:35: I can see Harold, but where is Kumar?

Sven Groot
Sven Groot
My name has 9 letters. Coincidence? I think not...
I stopped watching Enterprise when they introduced time travel.

So, you stopped watching Star Trek back in the sixties then? Time travel has always been a staple of Star Trek, for better or worse. It has led to some good stuff (e.g. City on the Edge of Forever, First Contact), and quite a lot of bad (the final episode of Voyager, ugh!). But I would not condemn the movie just for including time travel.

It looks pretty neat, anyway. I can live with the visuals as presented in the movie. The question is, is about the characters with a tortured personal core to the story, ala Wrath of Khan or First Contact? Or is it just an action flick? Only time will tell.
corona_coder
corona_coder
Only Proprietary software vendors deal in absolutes.
Like Windows 7, this movie will be a flop.
Sven Groot
Sven Groot
My name has 9 letters. Coincidence? I think not...
Well, I can breath easy now! Since Corona Coder is always wrong, it means this movie will be the best Trek movie ever and the franchise will be saved! Tongue Out
HumanCompiler
HumanCompiler
Compiling humans...and code
Really looking forward to the movie.  Big J.J. Abrams fan and a big fan of most of Star Trek (DS9 is my fav).  w00t!
Dr Herbie
Dr Herbie
Horses for courses
She cannae take it!

How did you know I had a Scottish accent?

Herbie
Not necessarily. For the most part Star Trek has always been very judicious in using time travel, and has generally tried to be conscious of the ramifications. They never used it too often.

When I realized that time travel was going to be a central theme of Enterprise, is really when I lost interest (and seeing knobbly headed klingons in the first ten minutes Smiley). There were just too many silly things in that series. Generally Star Trek has a decent track record compared to the rest of scifi when it comes to doing time travel reasonably well, but Enterprise just rubbed me the wrong way.

I still hold on to hope brought about by a rumor I heard a few years ago that J. Michael Straczynski was toying with a Star Trek series writer's bible. I immensly enjoy his other works, and a Star Trek series from him would be awesome.

I guess my comment was mostly knee jerk, because when time travel episodes are bad, they are so bad that they stand out the most in my mind.

My all time favorite time travel episode is Trials and Tribble-ations from DS9. It was just plain fun. I was somewhat pleased with the Year of Hell I-II from Voyager. Some of what happened was stupid, but the ending where none of it ever happened was cool (although quite predictable).
PerfectPhase
PerfectPhase
"This is not war, this is pest control!" - Dalek to Cyberman

One of the Best ever (for me) TNG episodes was time travel based, Yesterdays Enterprise. 
littleguru
littleguru
<3 Seattle
public bool? IsSuccessful(object x)
{
    if (x == null)
        return null;

    return !Corona_Coder.GetOpinion(x);
}

Tongue Out
Harlequin
Harlequin
http://twitter.c​om/TrueHarlequin
True on those accounts, but in Enterprise when they destroyed the Xindii weapon, came back to earth in the * past, that was just a time travel story arch where they had no idea what to do after the main storyline was concluded. Just plain bad.
I want more TNG movies.  It's the best series by far.
HumanCompiler
HumanCompiler
Compiling humans...and code

Just wanted to give a ++ to Trials and Tribble-ations!  Big Smile  I get clingy with anyone that likes DS9 since there don't seem to be a whole lot of us.

The series started out a bit like the other Trek shows, with little in the way of a coherent story. I really got into it when they decided to have a solid overall story arc with subplots along the way. Although, an integrated story made it a real pain before the days of DVR's when you missed an episode.
Sven Groot
Sven Groot
My name has 9 letters. Coincidence? I think not...
I adore DS9, and Trials and Tribble-ations was fantastic.

Strangely, I do actually like the first seasons as well. I disagree with kettch that it was like other Trek shows; while it did lack the overarching story, it had a lot of political machinations and story types that TNG could never do. Take a look at Duet for instance, TNG could never have such a downer ending. Dax, Battle Lines, Progress, Duet, In The Hands of the Prophets,  The Homecoming, The Circle, Cardassians, Necessary Evil, Whispers, Blood Oath, The Maquis, The Wire, Crossover and The Collaborator; these are the season 1 and 2 episodes that I consider to be among Trek's best, and that's a long list for just two seasons. Smiley Sure, the Dominion war brought a lot of great stuff to DS9, but I wouldn't discount the early seasons so easily.

DS9's main problem was that it kept trying to reinvent itself, which makes it quite uneven at times. DS9's other main problem was that the writers couldn't write an actually funny episode involving the Ferengi if their lives depended on it, yet somehow they kept trying every year. Tongue Out Fortunately its strengths greatly overshadow these problems. Smiley
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