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Joiseystud

#Dec 4th, 2008 @ 1:49 AM

I'm actually using Live Mesh to sync my favorites, etc. It works great and is kind of like .mac for the mac. That software is still beta but will eventually be integrated into the Live services.

The other report I read is that the Live "essentials", the client apps, will be upgraded to Release Candidate next week.

Joiseystud

In reply to dentaku

#Dec 3rd, 2008 @ 4:27 PM

These are not updated yet. This update was just for the web based stuff. The applications are supposed to be updated next week from what I hear.

Joiseystud

In reply to brian.shapiro

#Dec 3rd, 2008 @ 4:33 PM

Actually, I think the Movie maker application was being completely rewritten, timeline included, and was just in a broken state. They disabled the menus for everything except what was working so they could ship it with the beta. Stupid, i agree! That’s what Paul Thurrott reported a while back anyway... apparently he had someone hack the exe and was able to reactivate menus and see that stuff was there but broken. Next week’s RC is supposed to give us the real "Beta" of MovieMaker. It will be interesting to see what they consider. I can’t wait to see the threads about that. Dumbing down Movie Maker is a big mistake. Maybe they can add a stupid user mode and advanced user mode. I for one want it to be as powerful as possible and have even better timeline controls compared to the old version. Another key is that they beef up the format support. So many digicams are spitting out QT video and we can’t use the video in MM. I have to convert in QT Pro, and then import into MM. Kills the quality of the video! They need to think about supporting the customer scenarios, which include a lot of hardware that include QT. Maybe keep MM from being able to export as QT, but importing should be as universal as possible.

Bas
It finds lightbulbs.

In reply to Joiseystud

#Dec 4th, 2008 @ 4:19 AM

I wonder when 'eventually' will be. The rate things are going, we might see Microsoft apps pick up Mesh sometime in 2013. When everybody else has already got a better, more evolved offering.

I'm going to try Mesh for my favorites, though. I've tried it for a lot of things, and constantly found that it didn't work. Syncing the folder with all your RSS feeds doesn't work. Syncing Live Mail's mail store doesn't work. Syncing the Music folder to the Music share on WHS doesn't work. Everybody keeps telling me Mesh is so great, but currently it's just a slightly more cumbersome Synctoy that rarely works for anything that's more than a simple folder with some files, so I'm wondering which amazing feature from the Beta I overlooked.

And yeah, I understand the whole "It's a platform" thing, but that doesn't help me now. Right now, there's no SDK. It doesn't sync any data other than files. There's no amazing cross-device syncing. There's just a small application that allows me to sync files across my Windows PC's... and that doesn't include a Windows server.

Cupiditas
Chris Hawkins

In reply to Bas

#Dec 5th, 2008 @ 1:01 AM

In beta (yes, I know, I'm an idiot) Mesh deleted some of my files irrecoverably. I never forgave it.

Sven Groot
My name has 9 letters. Coincidence? I think not...

In reply to Bas

#Dec 5th, 2008 @ 1:01 AM

I tried Mesh briefly, it was horribly broken. It failed to install the Mesh RDP service and kept telling me about that, all attempts to fix that failed. It also told me that there was an update available (even though there wasn't) several times per day. I had the same experience on multiple computers. It was far, far slower than FolderShare and didn't manage to sync some folders at all.

I swiftly switched back to FolderShare, which works much better. I use that to synchonize my favorites btw, which work fine although it currently doesn't support files with non-ASCII file names so some Japanese favorites are left out. Apparently the next version (which will be rebranded Live Sync) will fix that. I do wish there was some way to synchronize RSS feeds using the Windows RSS platform (which I read using Outlook 2007), including their read state, between computers.

Joiseystud

In reply to Bas

#Dec 5th, 2008 @ 1:01 AM

Try the new Sync in Windows live toolbar at download.live.com
This keeps your favorites in sync. I have been using Mesh to do that for a while but there are minor issues (position of the favorite doesnt sync by just syncing the favorites folder across machines).
Another nice feature is the fact that the toolbar sync integrates into Live services, so my favorites are now accessible by me anywhere on the net, similar to contacts... very cool.

BlackTiger
If you stumbled and fell down, it doesn't mean yet, that you're going in the wrong direction.

Is "Live Photo Gallery" stupid white background fixed? Is it changeable now?

PS: ... Don't think so...

BlackTiger
If you stumbled and fell down, it doesn't mean yet, that you're going in the wrong direction.

In reply to BlackTiger

#Dec 16th, 2008 @ 5:31 AM

It's not fixed. Background still is white and not adjustable...

PS: I want to see head of that "fundamental moron" on my working desk. I will use it for pens and pensils... Or something alse. Unfortunately I quit smoking and cannot use it as ashtray....

GoddersUK
I CAN has cheezburger and you CAN'T has stop me!

Anyone else left wandering exactly where this woman is looking?

harumscarum
out of memory

In reply to GoddersUK

#Dec 16th, 2008 @ 8:02 AM

lol...is she bowing to the almighty screen shots?

intelman

Microsoft needs to remove the ads from Live Messenger.

Competitors, like Google with Google Talk have no ads. Ads just make the messenger look horrible. Make it stop.

Thank God for Apatch though...

esoteric
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In reply to AndyC

#Dec 4th, 2008 @ 2:44 AM

Maybe we need a new term? Crippleware - or maybe that already exists.

esoteric
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In reply to intelman

#Dec 16th, 2008 @ 8:48 AM

You speaketh the truth!

I would pay for loosing the advertisements Sad

Bas
It finds lightbulbs.

In reply to GoddersUK

#Dec 16th, 2008 @ 8:02 AM

Is that a water she has in her hands? Either she's really happy about spilling boiling water in her lap, or there's something fun going on below her neck. Hubba.