Posted By: elmer | Jan 7th @ 7:25 PM
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elmer
elmer
I'm on my very last life.
Previously, the blocker kit (to stop Windows Update automatically pushing it onto your machines) was released only a few months prior to the version of IE being released as a critical update.

Based on the Beta-2 I'm using, I can't believe we really that close... are we ??
Bass
Bass
www.s​preadfirefox.c​om/5years/
Seeing how all things point to IE8 shipping with Windows 7, IE8 will most likely be released in the upcoming months.

I have to say IE8 Beta 2 could've used bit more testing before going public. A day didn't go by without crashes and if using the normal mode, pages were often corrupt somehow. Sure it's a beta but hello, all the Vista public pre-releases were more stable atleast here.

As the answer to using IE8 with Vista SP2 beta was "use IE7, if you want the security fix" I got some partner build from some questionable source but atleast the certificate and certification path seems fine so I went and installed it. It's much nicer to use now, no crashes and corruptions in my regular browsing atleast. Still some minor things here and there when using the normal (non-IE7 compat) mode but most sites work quite well. I do have a feeling that some sites opened faster in compat mode. Haven't verified this though.


There's some things I'd like to improve though: The address bar shows page titles only for history & favorites. And the amount of the history shown by default can't be adjusted easily. There's a split bar there which could be used to adjust this but it doesn't do anything.

1.  I've had only about 3 crashes, and I've used it heavily every day since it was released.  One (or both) of our experiences is abnormal, so don't draw any conclusions from yours.

2.  IE8 needed to be released early as a beta, because it causes breaking changes for many web sites requiring exposure both for web devs to fix their sites and for MS to collect data about what sites don't work.

3.  The beta has been out long enough, you can bet there have been fixes for the majority of bugs people have discovered by now.  If MS were to announce it was shipping today, I wouldn't be overly concerned that what they shipped was any more buggy than any other new software.  (This is evidenced by androidi's post, I believe... this reply is for the entire thread and not just his post.)

4.  All indications have been that IE8 will be released with Win7 (as Bass said) and thus won't be released for a while yet.  In "upcomming months" is still about a year from now.  There's no official date, but the earliest credible guess I've seen is for RTM in October which means actual release in November/December.  That's a LOT of time for fixing bugs, especially considering all the time they've had since releasing B2 already.  Personally, I'm not sure I buy the October guess... I suspect it will be a month or two later.  But it's all speculation from folks who have no real clue (myself incuded).
vesuvius
vesuvius
Das Glasperlenspiel
*Thread Dick Turpinated*

wkempf, please have a look at this
Umm, I don't see a RTM in October if the RC will be in the first quarter of 2009 (http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/11/19/ie8-what-s-after-beta-2.aspx). Unless the RC thing is actually Beta 3...
The October prediction was for Win 7, not IE.  An RC for IE in the first quarter would, to me, indicate it's not tied to the release of Win 7.
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