The question everyone has on their mind | The Coffeehouse

rjdohnert
You will never know success until you know failure

Ok, its like the elephant in the room. Its the one question that everyone has but is afraid to ask. How much will Windows 7 cost?

Dr Herbie
Horses for courses

It's not that we're afraid to ask the question, we just don't see the point -- they're not going to tell us until they're ready!

And it will still be 'too much'

Herbie

cheong

In reply to Dr Herbie

#Jan 14th @ 1:07 AM

The price isn't important for me...

No matter how much it cost, I'll still get my copy from MSDN subscription without addtional charge. Tongue Out

Maddus Mattus
Do, or do not. There is no try. - Yoda

In reply to cheong

#Jan 14th @ 1:26 AM

for development purposes Wink

riiiiiiiiiiight Big Smile

corona_coder
Only Proprietary software vendors deal in absolutes.

In reply to Dr Herbie

#Jan 14th @ 1:07 AM

Just be prepared to have to remortgage your home, sell your car, and sell all your family heirlooms and you will be halfway there. Microsoft always charges a premium. Heres my price list: Home Edition: $300.00 Professional: $599.00 Ultimate: $800.00 Or you can always download gNewSense for free and support free and open standards. Look at how much inroad BSD and Linux are making in the world. 99.9% of mobile devices use Linux, The most popular option on Netbooks is Linux and Mac OS X is BSD based. If a raving Microsoft fanboy like Rory Blythe can change everyone else can too.

Dr Herbie
Horses for courses

In reply to corona_coder

#Jan 14th @ 3:31 AM

So you'd have to remortgage your house just to raise (at worst) $800.00 ? Boy, am I glad I don't work on free software. Luckily I get paid to write software for the Windows OS, so I can afford to raise that without having to sell anything.

Herbie

TommyCarlier
I want my scalps!

In reply to Dr Herbie

#Jan 14th @ 3:43 AM

$800? Convert it to Euros and you've got spare change.

Maddus Mattus
Do, or do not. There is no try. - Yoda

In reply to corona_coder

#Jan 14th @ 3:31 AM

$800.00 for a working OS or three weeks of my life for a free one?

Hard choice,...

vesuvius
Das Glasperlenspiel

In reply to TommyCarlier

#Jan 14th @ 3:48 AM

That's £550. Six months back it would have been £398. I think I may wait until the credit crunch has subsided because Vista is a great OS. You never know, Britain may join the Euro if things continue as they are.

Apart from having the latest, just because you can, is there really a need to upgrade? If you do Windows Forms development, do you really need Visual Studio 2008 or the forthcoming 2010?

TommyCarlier
I want my scalps!

In reply to vesuvius

#Jan 14th @ 4:08 AM

I develop in Windows Forms and I must say that Visual Studio 2008 makes me a lot more productive. Even though I'm still developing in .NET 2.0, I can use most of the language features from C# 3 (var, automatic properties, extension methods, ...). And I really like the fact that my C# code is compiled in the background, while I'm typing, providing me with almost instant error messages (squigly underlines, yeah!).

stevo_
Human after all

In reply to corona_coder

#Jan 14th @ 3:31 AM

Get what you pay for eh..

ManipUni
Proving QQ for 5 years!

In reply to stevo_

#Jan 14th @ 4:56 AM

Windows 7 Ultimate Edition - £239.99 Retail / OEM £165

Although Ultimate Edition is just a scam. A way to charge people more for getting what really amounts to Windows XP Professional.

Equivalent editions (functionality)
Windows 7 Basic - n/a
Windows 7 Home Premium - XP Home
Windows 7 Ultimate - Windows XP Professional

Equivalent editions (pricing)
Windows 7 Basic - Windows XP Home
Windows 7 Home Premium - Windows XP Professional
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition - n/a

So it is really a hidden way to increase the price without people getting upset about it. Windows 7 Basic is used by nobody and Microsoft is fine with that because it only exists as a way to force the price of Home Premium and by extension Ultimate up. The fact that people are upset by the lack of "Ultimate Extras" just makes me feel a little sorry for you...

spivonious

In reply to ManipUni

#Jan 14th @ 5:29 AM

7 Home Premium = XP Pro? If they include remote desktop server in Home Premium, then there really is no reason to get Ultimate. --nevermind, I just saw that it was only a pricing comparison

My predictions on price will be (full retail)

7 Home = $129.99, $199.99 for a 3 machine home license
7 Business = $199.99
7 Ulimate = $249.99

Bas
It finds lightbulbs.

I think the most annoying thing about seeing no remote desktop stuff in Home editions is that it makes all the remote desktop features of Windows Home Server useless. It's a device intended for the home. That stuff isn't in home editions. Why didn't they do that math?

GoddersUK
I CAN has cheezburger and you CAN'T has stop me!

In reply to ManipUni

#Jan 14th @ 5:29 AM

Equivalent editions (pricing)
Windows 7 Basic - Windows XP Home
Windows 7 Home Premium - Windows XP MCE 2005
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition - Windows XP Professional

GoddersUK
I CAN has cheezburger and you CAN'T has stop me!

I'd guess much the same as Vista?

corona_coder
Only Proprietary software vendors deal in absolutes.

In reply to spivonious

#Jan 14th @ 5:44 AM

Attach about $200.00 more and you probably got a ballpark figure. If the cost of Windows is too much and gNewSense is too hard for you guys to learn you can always use rj's distro and save some money. I mean since you guys like it so much and you think its so great.

spivonious

In reply to corona_coder

#Jan 14th @ 12:43 PM

gNewSense is the worst name ever. Why would I want to use something that's a nuisance?

Bass
www.spreadfirefox.com/5years/

In reply to spivonious

#Jan 14th @ 1:44 PM

It's only a nuisance to people who hate freedom! Smiley

Ian2
Proud to geek ..

In reply to spivonious

#Jan 14th @ 1:44 PM

How about free if you trade in a copy of OSX?

Minh
WOOH! WOOH!

Corona is right, I saw somewhere that Windows 7 Ultimate edition will cost $6,000 (US). Really.

foreachdev
Twitter: @foreachdev

In reply to Minh

#Jan 14th @ 2:33 PM

I get my copies of windows traditionally through SWAG at User groups. So the cost is not object to me.

And corona is just plain foaming off the mouth as always.

My girlfriend just bought a laptop for 500. Doubt MS is getting that big of a share. If one has been watching market at work. Microsoft will make less and less off Windows and Office as time goes on. OS is becomming more and more of a commodity.

La Bomba
Boing!

In reply to foreachdev

#Jan 14th @ 3:24 PM

That elephant so sure looks a alot more friendly than the elephant when vista was coming out.

Is pricing that big of a deal? How will be it any different than in the past? Maybe they will take the economy in to their factoring.

cheong

In reply to Maddus Mattus

#Jan 14th @ 1:27 AM

Well, that's my development machine, and I does do some game making and windows service projects. I'd want to check whether it runs on Windows 7 correctly.

They doesn't ban people from doing other things like surfing web and playing music while testing / developing, right? Wink

jamie

In reply to cheong

#Jan 14th @ 5:44 PM

i paid nothing for vista (thanks jeff) but if i had bought ultimate for 300$ and then 7 came which basically is vista fixed and fast.. i would be VERY mad buying it "again"