Windows 7 RC | The Coffeehouse

littleguru
<3 Seattle

Since it is already out for a while... Who has already installed it? What's new that you like the most? I have seen that they included some nice new backgrounds and that the sign-in dialog has also a nice new background... I like the visual touch Smiley

Any bugs spotted?

pdev

More importantly, do any of you know if they fixed the snapping to work right with multiple monitors? ...in the beta you were unable to snap windows to the monitor split :-/

SlackmasterK
I write my OWN blogging engines

In reply to pdev

#Apr 30th @ 2:54 PM

Can too. WinKey-left / right.

sushovande
Smiley Face Sharp

I have installed it, and have brainwashed my teammate to install it, and we have slightly different experiences.

Me:
Feels generally more stable, better visual polish, but laptop getting a bit warm too quickly.

Teammate (on hp tablet):
Gets very hot very quickly. CPU fan is always on. Bringing the tablet pen close to the screen causes the mouse to flicker horribly for a long time. Math input panel takes 50% CPU even when running in system tray. Typing in Google Talk windows has lag of 2 seconds. GMail notifier does not work. Google Talk Labs edition does not work. Zone Alarm does not work. Hp media remote does not work.

In short, it has been a nightmare for my teammate, and he is one encouragement away from factory-restoring his tablet.

littleguru
<3 Seattle

In reply to sushovande

#Apr 30th @ 3:31 PM

@teammate: could it be that his display drivers are not installed? Sounds very much that something with the graphics card driver is not right.

sushovande
Smiley Face Sharp

Well he has Aero glass working, so it should'nt be the display drivers. Windows Update didnt have any drivers on it... maybe I'll try the latest Vista drivers from ATI.

EDIT: for the record, installed ATI drivers, didn't help.
EDIT2: After a couple of restarts, the tablet mouse flicker problem seems to have dissapeared, (but the other problems remain). Thanks, littleguru!

PerfectPhase
"This is not war, this is pest control!" - Dalek to Cyberman

Have it installed and Win7+Offic2007sp2 is a real perf boost over the same machine on vista and officesp1. Give it a couple of days and I think at this rate I'll move most of my personal machines over, might even do the work one, I'm really that happy with it!

What I'm really wanting to do is get server 2008 R2 installed, Hyper-V live migration and cluster volume support here I come!

BTW the only thing that really bugs me is that you can't just click on the blue e in the task barto open a second IE window any more, it's a right click away now and that bugs me. Though the ctrl-click to cycle through the open windows I like.

Sampy
This will be the sixth time we have destroyed it and we have become exceedingly efficient at it

Set your theme to "Characters"

thiebaude

In reply to Sampy

#Apr 30th @ 4:24 PM

I think Windows 7 is sweet, The only problem I have is Pidgin, when i right the pidgin icon on the bottom taskbar to close it Pidgin freezes and then i try to do a ctrl Alt Del and that doen't work so i have to just restart.Otherwise everything is great.

Ion Todirel
buuu

In reply to Sampy

#Apr 30th @ 4:24 PM

I prefer "Landscape", it reminds me of Halo 3 Smiley

Dodo
I'm your creativity creator™ :)

I like it. I installed it on April 26th. Though, I have a problem I can't seem to fix and I don't know yet where the problem is.
I have an Intel ICH10 Enhanced USB on the X58 chipset and the PATA-2-USB drive enclusure I have, which is based on the Prolific PL-3507B doesn't work in USB2.0 mode forcing me to disable both Enhanced USB controllers to use the drive.
I don't know wether if it is the chipset in general (the drive seemed to work fine on another Windows 7 computer), the Intel chipset driver, or the mass storage driver. I installed the recent firmware on the PATA-2-USB adapter but it didn't help.

I like it, that Windows 7 automatically locks your computer now, if you have a password set. I'm not so sure if that's a bug, but it uses the time that's set for the screen saver, even if the screen saver is disabled. What bugs me about this though, it also locks my computer while watching video. I doubt that's a bug in the NVIDIA drivers.

@thiebaude: I'm sure the original IM clients of the services you use should work just fine, except for AIM, which aparently doesn't like some JS debugger DLL that gets installed with Visual Studio.

CreamFilling512

In reply to thiebaude

#Apr 30th @ 4:43 PM

Pidgin has a known bug that makes it deadlock on close and freeze. I don't know if they ever fixed it.

vesuvius
Das Glasperlenspiel

In reply to PerfectPhase

#Apr 30th @ 4:24 PM

A mistake people make is about commenting about the speed of a fresh install of an operating system - of course its 'gonna be' fast. If you install Vista as a 'fresh install', you can't exactly call it slow? The speed thing about vista is a myth, with people that have badly spec'd machines as I have never found speed to be an issue.

Compare Windows 7 speed wise after installing Visual Studio on it plus the zillions of other applications and services (although 7 manages services much better) and then see what it is like in 6 months time after being used a bit.

Speed comparisons for a fresh install are folly!

Sven Groot
My name has 9 letters. Coincidence? I think not...

I've used build 7000 since it came out on two machines, installed tons of crap on it, and I still think it's faster than Vista. Not that Vista was slow, mind you (it was at least as fast as XP), it's just that 7 is faster. Big Smile

littleguru
<3 Seattle

@PerfectPhase: To open a new instance press "the uppercase key" (keep it pressed) and then click with the left mouse on the button (the blue e). That works with all apps in the taskbar.

Edit: somehow the "reply to" got lost Sad

sushovande
Smiley Face Sharp

In reply to sushovande

#Apr 30th @ 3:44 PM

My teammate finally narrowed down the solution - posting here for reference:

To fix mouse flicker issue with tablet pen on certain hp tablets running Win7 RC, do this:
• Disable the TabletPen service from Wacom
• Enable the Tablet PC Input Svc from Microsoft

littleguru
<3 Seattle

In reply to sushovande

#May 1st @ 1:35 AM

Thanks for the follow up. Smiley

So he did upgrade from the previous installation?

PerfectPhase
"This is not war, this is pest control!" - Dalek to Cyberman

In reply to littleguru

#May 1st @ 1:25 AM

Cheers for that, I had tried the ctrl and alt, forgot about shift Smiley

I seem to be discovering cool new short cuts all the time, anyone read the help yet, are they documented anywhere?

PerfectPhase
"This is not war, this is pest control!" - Dalek to Cyberman

In reply to vesuvius

#May 1st @ 12:44 AM

Yep, quite agree. I've never had a problem with speed on Vista, in fact I find it pretty quick once booted but I always use it on hi-spec machines. If anything I think it improves with age for the first month after install.

That said, on the same machine with equivalent tool set VS2008-sp1, office-sp2, solidworks2009, SQL-Ent 2008 full install, Adobe CS4 suite and quite a few other things, Win7 kicks Vista SP1 a** on responsiveness even when both installs are only a few days old. Raw processing power there is no difference, such as for video encodes.

I'm downloading Vista SP2 at the moment, be intreasting to see what difference that makes.

PaoloM
Hypermediocrity

In reply to PerfectPhase

#May 1st @ 6:13 AM

Guys, keep coming with the feedback!

If you can, please keep it on as few threads as possible, so I can follow them all up. Remember, if I don't see it, it never happened Smiley

Bass
www.spreadfirefox.com/5years/

Would be nice if Windows 7 had some kind of "virtual machine" mode install. Like you could install it in such a way where it is optimized for running on a virtual machine. But maybe that is too late feedback wise.

PaoloM
Hypermediocrity

In reply to Bass

#May 1st @ 9:10 AM

I don't understand. What do you have in mind?

Bass
www.spreadfirefox.com/5years/

Some kind of selective install that strips out drivers and what not. Hell just a modular install would be really cool. I use Windows a lot on virtual machines and tend to resort to tools like nLite to have the same effect, but it would be nice if there was an official solution.

Also some kind of official paravirtualization support would be really nice.

sushovande
Smiley Face Sharp

In reply to littleguru

#May 1st @ 4:02 AM

Yes - he upgraded from Vista

littleguru
<3 Seattle

In reply to sushovande

#May 1st @ 12:30 PM

Yeah. That's probably why he had the issues with the driver. If he had made a plain install he probably would have sticked with the default drivers and it wouldn't happened. I know that's sometimes easier to simply upgrade and otherwise it's a lot of work but nothing goes over a clean install Smiley