Visual Studio 2010 Beta 1 | The Coffeehouse

KevinB

Its out on MSDN now for anyone that is interested. Servers seem to be going well, no connection problems or slow transfers like with the Windows 7 Beta and RC builds.

PeterF
Early Adopter

You have beaten me to it, happy downloading Smiley

rhm

In reply to PeterF

#May 18th @ 10:56 AM

Suppose I should find the release notes somewhere, but does anyone know if the NET framework version includes the merging of XNA-like 3d APIs into WPF that was demoed at PDC2008? Cos that's about the only thing I'm interested in right now.

stevo_
Human after all

Is there a more official announcement? or at least some more info, like- side by side with vs08? what about installing the .net 4 beta- I take it that won't screw anything up.

vesuvius
Das Glasperlenspiel

In reply to stevo_

#May 18th @ 11:49 AM

That would be courageous. For a RC maybe, not for a beta.

littleguru
<3 Seattle

In reply to vesuvius

#May 18th @ 12:18 PM

*downloading* I'll install it as my primary IDE on my private computer. Let's see how that thing rolls.

PerfectPhase
"This is not war, this is pest control!" - Dalek to Cyberman

In reply to littleguru

#May 18th @ 12:31 PM

Can't wait! Downloading.....

Spinning up a few virtual machines while I wait, really looking forward to see what's new in TFS-2010

Here's hoping for a flood of .Net 4 / 2010 videos!

Ion Todirel
buuu

In reply to stevo_

#May 18th @ 11:49 AM

No, you can install it SxS with Orcas, it won't screw up anything

Ion Todirel
buuu

In reply to rhm

#May 18th @ 11:05 AM

No that I'm aware of...

AndyC

In reply to Ion Todirel

#May 18th @ 3:44 PM

Installing it right now, really looking forward to giving this a spin. All I need now is to think of another WPF-worthy project to really kick it's tires. Smiley

Ion Todirel
buuu

In reply to littleguru

#May 18th @ 12:31 PM

be nice with it Smiley

Sven Groot
My name has 9 letters. Coincidence? I think not...

In reply to littleguru

#May 18th @ 12:31 PM

I'm not sure if that's a good idea, since you're also running Windows 7. That's a scenario known as beta-on-beta and it tends to invalidate bug reports for both products.

JoshRoss
A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent.

I have the thing installed, now how do I enable the searching on the property grid? It was in one of those 10-4 videos, so I know that its there, somewhere.

EDIT: Maybe it only works for WPF. Even without this feature, this thing is beautiful! It can only compare to farting under silk sheets.

Ion Todirel
buuu

In reply to JoshRoss

#May 18th @ 8:45 PM

glad you like it, I'll send your regards to the shell team Smiley

Michael Butler

First thoughts on VS2010

Very impressed so far,

Liked the installed process, smooth even with the reboot. Liked the C#/C++ customization option. I don't do C++ anymore, so that was welcome. It also handled the SQL Server / Windows 7 compatability issues well.

Code Editor is very speedy for a beta release. Feels slightly better than the VS2008 experience, liking it so far but only written a few classes in it so not a fair test yet.

The WPF design environment still feels a little clunky and slow to me, but not as bad as VS2008. When I get around to doing some more complicated forms I'll have a better opinion probably.

Architecure Explorer is wonderful, looking forward to seeing what is makes of one of my larger projects.

My biggest cheer of the night was that ASP.NET didn't mangle my control ID's. Big Smile

littleguru
<3 Seattle

In reply to Sven Groot

#May 18th @ 7:56 PM

ssssshht. beta on RC Tongue Out

Dr Herbie
Horses for courses

In reply to littleguru

#May 19th @ 1:31 AM

Anyone else getting one or two manky icons? My comment and uncomment icons on the text editor toolbar look wrong. I posted as a low priority issue on connect, but was wondering if it was just my drivers or something (NVidia on Vista). It's just those two icons so far, so I guess it's most likely knackered resources in the build.

Herbie

Sven Groot
My name has 9 letters. Coincidence? I think not...

In reply to Dr Herbie

#May 19th @ 1:52 AM

Same here, using a virtual machine with XP.

Dr Herbie
Horses for courses

In reply to Sven Groot

#May 19th @ 1:55 AM

Good to know it's not just me, then Big Smile

Herbie

littleguru
<3 Seattle

OMG! How blurry is the font that is rendered by the WPF parts of the new Dev 10. Disgusting, seriously. It's like looking at a blur all the time.

I hope this is not the final version of the text rendering. Otherwise I'm seriously forced to watch to blurred text all the time?

I konw that this is a WPF thing and I never liked that in WPF... but c'mon VS is a tool where I spend half of my time in... Something like that is horrible Sad

Chadk
excuse me - do you has a flavor?

In reply to littleguru

#May 19th @ 2:05 AM

WPF has a tendency to have strangely blurry text.

I guessed that's a feature.

rhm

In reply to littleguru

#May 19th @ 2:05 AM

Do you have cleartype enabled on your PC? Because if you don't, WPF uses "standard anti-aliasing" which is very blurry. Cleartype looks crisp I think. I haven't installed the beta yet, but I use Blend on my PC and it looks great in the code view.