Posted By: DCMonkey | Jun 11th @ 12:15 PM
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DCMonkey
DCMonkey
Monkey see, monkey do, monkey will destroy you!

Apparently MS is only going to offer Windows 7 without IE in the EU. OEMs will have the option of including it and/or other browsers.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10262630-56.html?tag=mncol;txt

I still think Windows EU (eww) would have been a better name.

Dovella
Dovella
Go Microsoft !!!!!!!

more crapware in new notebook

AKA
Google chrome and toolbar

 

brian.shapiro
brian.shapiro
things go on as always

"For computer makers that want it, Microsoft will offer a free "IE 8 pack" that allows them to add the browser back in. It's a little more complicated for consumers who buy a retail copy of Windows 7. Because the operating system lacks a browser, there's not a direct way to go to Microsoft's Web site to download one. Microsoft aims to make it as easy as possible for folks in Europe to get the browser, though, and plans to offer it via CD, FTP and retail channels, according to a person a familiar with the situation."

 

What a mess.

Microsoft may be trying to make a point by not offering a version with a browser.

Dovella
Dovella
Go Microsoft !!!!!!!

Yes is fine ok, but i want PC CLEAN out of box, i want choose .

Why remove IE 8?

Tomorrow remove WMP , after remove Calculator, Wordpad, Paint, Games Notes etc.

WIndows have IE like APple have Safari , Itunes, etc.

I do not understand why Microsoft is punished

 

PS.

 

http://microsoftontheissues.com/cs/blogs/mscorp/archive/2009/06/11/working-to-fulfill-our-legal-obligations-in-europe-for-windows-7.aspx

 

Will only be the E versions available in the EU or will the E versions be sold along with the normal versions? That's not clear.

The N version (without media player) is sold along with the normal version here in the EU (and no one buys the N version).

Bass
Bass
www.s​preadfirefox.c​om/5years/

Actually I would love a version of Windows without pretty much anything except the ability to run common Win32 applications. Basically I'd love it if Microsoft would implement this: http://www.winehq.org/

Maybe the EU can "ask" for that, especially under a public domain/BSD-style license Devil

Dovella
Dovella
Go Microsoft !!!!!!!

USe Xp with Nlite.

its easy

Bass
Bass
www.s​preadfirefox.c​om/5years/

Still requires a virtual machine. What I want is Win32 available on all platforms, free of charge. This would of course force Microsoft to compete on the quality of their operating system, and not what applications it can run.

blowdart
blowdart
Peek-a-boo

They'll still offer the full version in the EU.

N stood for "No-one will buy this"

E stands for "Erect digit, middle"

PaoloM
PaoloM
Hypermediocrity

They'll still offer the full version in the EU.

I have no direct info, but that didn't sound what the memo said.

"Windows 7 will be offered in Europe in all of the versions that will be available here in the United States, both 32- and 64-bit, with an “E” at the end of the product name (for instance, Windows 7 Home Premium E).  The E versions of Windows 7 will ship at the same time as Windows 7 ships in the rest of the world, and they will be available in 23 European languages." 

There's no mention of the "full" version being available in Europe...

blowdart
blowdart
Peek-a-boo

Hmm yes. Maybe misread that, I guess versions means Basic, Basic+, SuperBasic, etc.

Bas
Bas
It finds lightbulbs.

Well, great. Now I'm being punished for some company's apparent misbehaviour. Thanks a *ing bundle, EU.

Also: what about stuff that uses IE components, like help?

I am sure MSHTML.dll is included, just not IEXPLORE.exe

Dodo
Dodo
I'm your creativity creator™ :)

I like it. Big Smile

Another browser? Hm... no, but NO browser seems like a good idea... Now I want to see how people manage to download Opera on a netbook, without having it on an USB drive, of course... Smiley

Now I'm being punished for some company's apparent misbehaviour.

The company you are referring to is M$. And they are punished for their unlawful behaviour of using their monopoly position to prevent users from being able to make a choice if they want the M$ browser on their system or not - customization during installation.

NO browser seems like a good idea

Why can't the "developers, developers, developers" over at M$ implement Lynx that could be used to download the web browser you want to have.

In this case, I hope they sell Win7 Ewww version and Win7 Not Ewww version both in stores. Or maybe I should open an online store selling Not Ewwed version.

My ads will be like: "Get More For The Same Price. Get Windows 7 US unEwwed Version Now on www.win7uneu.com"

 

brian.shapiro
brian.shapiro
things go on as always

They could. I don't think they believe users want to go through that. Why doesn't Apple implement Lynx if its such a brilliant idea.

N stood for "No-one will buy this"

And you see that the EU didn't let M$ fool it this time - you people have no respect for the law - you think that the law is about M$ pushing their products onto people who don't want them and you making money out of that by having a strategic advantage in the market place.

Why doesn't Apple implement Lynx if its such a brilliant idea.

Because Apple does not have a monopoly position in the market place there antitrust law doesn't apply to it. And besides Apple web engine is open-source therefore it does not push forward a proprietary lock-in solution.

UNJUST laws

That means a law which makes M$ business model invalid is unjust.

brian.shapiro
brian.shapiro
things go on as always

Well I'm sure you understand why Apple wouldn't want to do it voluntarily. Microsoft isn't interested in doing it voluntarily for the same reasons.

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