Two IE8 Complaints | The Coffeehouse

wkempf

The first I'd classify as a bug. Occasionaly, for whatever reason (probably network related), a site being navigated to in a "new tab" (middle click, or because of the behavior of "popup windows" being configured to open in a tab), will take a long time. In these cases, the "tab" will suddenly become a new browser window. Annoying as sin. I wanted a new tab, not a new browser window.

Which leads to the second complaint. Why can't I move my tabs from one browser window to another, as can be done in Chrome? Such obvious functionality that really shouldn't have been missed.

blowdart
Peek-a-boo

My annoyance is that new tabs open on the far right, including off screen, instead of to the immediate right of the tab they opened from.

Sampy
This will be the sixth time we have destroyed it and we have become exceedingly efficient at it

In reply to blowdart

#Jun 12th @ 11:11 AM

It opens it to the right of the group.

If you have one group, that's the far right.

spivonious

Building off your tab dragging complaint, I want to be able to drag an IE window into a new tab.

TommyCarlier
I want my scalps!

I just want IE to open instantly and not let me wait 2 seconds while it's "loading about:blank". I rarely use IE but when I need it, the user experience kind of sucks.

intelman

My annoyance is that Chrome seems to be more compatible than IE8. In addition, the stupid yellow bar blocking downloads is annoying. IE7 had this too. I always disable it, but sometimes I cannot at school. So I just use portable firefox. Getting files from our online course management with IE has always been a pain.

I have recieved email from my departments IT department telling us to uninstall IE8 and deny updates that would install such a thing.

blowdart
Peek-a-boo

In reply to Sampy

#Jun 12th @ 11:32 AM

Yea true. But I want it to the right of the immediate tab Smiley

jamie

ie was once the best browser - but not anymore

(now they all suck equally)

*i want nashville back!

Koogle
I'm a Terminator - Astalavista, Vis7a!

In reply to Sampy

#Jun 12th @ 11:32 AM

"It opens it to the right of the group.

If you have one group, that's the far right."

its pretty crap implementation, trust MS to make the right default(ONLY) choice ...NOT!...

"I want it to the right of the immediate tab"

..thats how it should be, or could if IE wasn't so rubbish as to not provide the options... its not like anyone else is going to make decent extensions for that browser anymore.

"Why can't I move my tabs from one browser window to another, as can be done in Chrome? Such"

can be done in Firefox aswel, and your bug can be controlled with FF aswel.. IE sucks, sucks at tabs, sucks at opening/closing tabs, sucks even more with scripts running, it just sucks in every case to do with anything, why is anyone still using it!

TheGnu

In reply to Koogle

#Jun 12th @ 4:08 PM

Koogle, why then are you using it? constructive criticism is a good thing, saying well, it's IE, its MS, therefore it sucks, oh and it's a massive hole for security problems, doesn't really help. Examples. real test cases might help. This is a microsoft site, they might listen if you'd help them rather than just shout you're sh*t loudly.

Anyway in a fantastically helpful way any ideas why IE8 on win7rc today everytime I go to a new website IE give me a wonderful internet connection error, diagnose here, if I press F5, the site loads fine. An issue with the phishing check taking too long?

Dodo
I'm your creativity creator™ :)

In reply to TommyCarlier

#Jun 12th @ 11:39 AM

Use it more often and Superfetch will make it pop up in less than a second. I hate Firefox, because it takes 2 minutes to start and you complain about 2 seconds... strange world, eh?

Koogle
I'm a Terminator - Astalavista, Vis7a!

In reply to TheGnu

#Jun 12th @ 7:26 PM

.. I don't use 'IE', but I sometimes have to..and thats the annoying bit ... its the only reason I even bother commenting about IE, its like letting off steam.... and constructive criticism is generally a waste of time here if its not to do with c9 etc, you need to go through the right 'channels' if you want to provide feedback to particular teams on getting them to sort their sh/t out... which is actually quite a pointless endevaour.

"I hate Firefox, because it takes 2 minutes to start and you complain about 2 seconds"

2mins!? ... try ~10seconds with 60+ extensions, and much better control ... vs. starting up IE...which even if it started up instantly like chrome wouldn't mean diddly sh/t because it only offers a crap ui & experience all round really. - "strange world" indeed

Dodo
I'm your creativity creator™ :)

In reply to Koogle

#Jun 12th @ 9:18 PM

Ten seconds for a cached start is still slower than an uncached start of 2 seconds... just saying. I don't have a problem with the UI, but I'm not going to debate about taste...

brian.shapiro
things go on as always

In reply to Koogle

#Jun 12th @ 9:18 PM

I've been using Firefox but there are a couple of things that bug me. One thats getting on my nerves is that often when you close Firefox, it really doesn't shut down. Then if you try to run it again, even sometimes even after a minute, you get a stupid message box saying 'Firefox is already running'.

TommyCarlier
I want my scalps!

In reply to Dodo

#Jun 12th @ 8:00 PM

It's not only the loading of the window. I just tried it again and I can see it takes about 2 seconds to show the window and then an additional 1 à 2 seconds before I can actually do something with it (while it's loading about:blank). Even a warm start takes 2 à 3 seconds from start to ready.

If I start Chrome, it's ready immediately. I use slimKEYS to launch applications, so I press Win+Space, type in 'chr' and as soon as I press Enter, Chrome is there and I can immediately use it.

It's practically the same with Opera (my default browser). Firefox is even worse than IE (around 6 seconds cold start, around 3 seconds warm start). Safari takes about 10 seconds cold and 1 second warm.

ZippyV
Fired Up

My complaints about IE:

- Cookies get lost. I have to relogin to several websites like Digg while with Firefox I don't have to login for several weeks.
Even worse, IE is not able to remember the name and password to fill in. It does show a lot of usernames that I've used on other websites but it never fills in the password. The feature is unreliable.

- IE7Pro gets disabled sometimes when I open a site in a new tab. It's annoying.

wkempf

In reply to Koogle

#Jun 12th @ 4:08 PM

Because, from a user's point of view, the others suck more? OK, to be fair, Firefox probably is better from a user's point of view... but I spent way to much time working with FF at the source level to ever install that thing on another of my machines again.

Koogle
I'm a Terminator - Astalavista, Vis7a!

"Ten seconds for a cached start is still slower than an uncached start of 2 seconds... just saying."

-what lies? 10 sec uncached! not cached...and you'll be closer to the truth, but if thats not enough, 10sec for good stuff, vs 2sec for rubbish(can inc. that junk called chrome in this side aswel).. and thats just startup speed, what about your actual browsing session and delays incurred through the a crap ui, page rendering, control, lack of decent enhancements etc.. you choose.. oh..you chose fail!

anyway its probably best you don't debate on taste, you're defending IE against Firefox (which is albeit carried by its extensions and addons) ...but its still a no win situation for you Smiley

"I've been using Firefox but there are a couple of things that bug me. One thats getting on my nerves is that often when you close Firefox, it really doesn't shut down. Then if you try to run it again, even sometimes even after a minute, you get a stupid message box saying 'Firefox is already running'."

Well you didn't say what version, did you even do a search for "Firefox is already running"? , and if you're closing FF and wanting to open up again straight after like after installing/testing an addon/theme etc, then you're doing it wrong..because that is where you use restart instead.

Anyway I've got plenty of annoyances to do with FF and its inabilities including some of its addons, its far from perfect, but right now its better than the rest have to offer when you add it all up.

brian.shapiro
things go on as always

In reply to Koogle

#Jun 13th @ 8:25 AM

No Koogle, I'm installing an addon or theme, I just want to close Firefox because I have a lot of tabs open and its the easiest way to close them all. This is v3.0+

Sven Groot
My name has 9 letters. Coincidence? I think not...

In reply to brian.shapiro

#Jun 13th @ 8:58 AM

I just want to close Firefox because I have a lot of tabs open and its the easiest way to close them all.

It sounds to me like the "Close other tabs" option on a tab's context menu is what you're actually looking for.

brian.shapiro
things go on as always

In reply to Sven Groot

#Jun 13th @ 9:07 AM

It's kind of irrelevant though.. Its stupid Firefox does that.. sometimes Firefox doesn't shut down like that for quite a while, so there's even rare occasions when I close my browser, and a minute later I want to open it again. I can't, so I have to go to Task Manager and end the process.