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Re: Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

PerfectPhase — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:49:24 GMT

Just a vm image, nothing special. Just gets around the single PC limitation rubish and means I don't need that junk on my real machines.

Re: Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

Ray7 — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:26:40 GMT

As long has Apple has a legion of fanboys to hide behind, then they don't have to fix anything.

Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

ManipUni — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:23:34 GMT

Apple needs to do something about iTunes it is such a piece of junk. QuickTime too while we're on the subject. Oh and Bonjour. Heck just everything you get in the package with iTunes is junk.

Re: Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

PaoloM — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:14:49 GMT

Elaborate please... :)

Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

PerfectPhase — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:10:13 GMT

This is probably overkill, but I now have iTunes for my iPhone installed on a minimal install of XP on a USB memory stick that I take to and from work now so that I sync my phone at both locations. Thinking about it, it's quite damming that I'd prefer to, have to, go to these lengths than install iTunes on the native machines.

Re: Re: Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

Robert Oswalt — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:51:42 GMT

Actually Zune gapless audio was added with the 2.5 update.

Re: Re: Re: Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

blowdart — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 06:17:01 GMT

Hmm, I will fire mine up and have a check later.

Re: Re: Re: Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

intelman — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 03:03:44 GMT

It is true.

Re: Re: Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

LeoDavidson — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 02:56:08 GMT

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=zune+gapless+2.5 <-- lots of reports say that the Zune does gapless now, or at least claimed to in that firmware update. Is that not the case? Since it's never been released in the UK I've only got the web to go by.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

Minh — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 00:51:06 GMT

No, blowdart...

This is a pretty technical issue, I hope you can follow along...

Apparently the file system on my C: drive is corrupted, and it's affecting my other installs too... So, hopefully after a reinstall of Win7, iTunes will be OK...

Also, I've looked into iTunes alternatives... There are many... but for iPod Touch and later, the picking is very slim... And those that work required iTunes to be installed...

Re: Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

Dorian Muthig — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:32:19 GMT

blowdart said:
Or install it in that XP mode thingy and see if the USB virtualization works

It does, it's awesome, I can use my scanner (which has only 32bit drivers) with that. :)

Sabot said:
So why is it taking so long? Will looking at WireShark, iTunes is sending my backup to Apple at the sametime as I'm doing it and my upload is 800 Kb/s and uploading 8GB will take so watch out for that.

Yeah, iTunes sends everything to Apple. Hashes for your music files, backups... EVERYTHING. Next year the RIAA will buy Apples data and sue... wait how many iTues users are there, that have at least one music file that appears on more than one computer and does NOT originate from an online music store... lots... I'm just saying... don't use iTunes, it's evil.

Sabot said:
Is there an alternative to iTunes?

I think the RealPlayer has iPod support as well, but I don't know if that works any good. I never tried it and I don't have my iPod anymore.

Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

stevo_ — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:26:45 GMT

Ugh, itunes.. shudders- probably best if it doesnt work.

Re: Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

blowdart — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:21:56 GMT

You realise the Zune right now doesn't have gapless audio?

Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

LeoDavidson — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:19:45 GMT

I had a bright idea, after discovering that QuickTime b0rked PNG in IE again (it doesn't even ASK you anymore during the installer; Apple have made it worse, not better)...

When I do a clean reinstall for Windows 7 I'm going to install iTunes (and all the awful, awful crap that comes with it) into a virtual machine so that Apple's filth cannot affect my real computer.

I noticed a while ago that VMWare has a special iPod icon in its status bar if an iPod is plugged in while VMWare is running. I wondered why it had special support for iPods (rather than simply passing them through as a generic USB device) and now I think I know why! It's to save us from Apple's software. :-)

(If MS could just release a 100+gig Zune in the UK, I could ditch iTunes entirely! Right now the iPod is the only choice I have for gapless audio with loads of storage. I've got money waiting to be spent if someone else ever competes and has less-awful software.)

Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

Chadk — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:55:44 GMT

Works just fine for me.

Re: Re: Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

phreaks — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:38:18 GMT

Have you (or anyone else) tried SongBird on Win7?

http://getsongbird.com/

Re: Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

brichpmr — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:12:50 GMT

Sounds like there is something amiss with your install. I'm running XP Pro SP3 via VMware Fusion inside Leopard on a 2.4 GB Core 2 Duo Blackbook, and iPhone backups and iTunes on both platforms are pretty brisk for me. This is with a 16 gig iPhone 3G. Additionally, I find that the new Safari 4 rocks in XP, in terms of speed. Just saying......if you were sitting in my chair right now comparing my install with your post, you'd be scratching your head.

Re: Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

Ray7 — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:59:02 GMT

Quite a few, but Apple would rather you didn't use use them.

Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

David Oliver — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:36:59 GMT

iTunes Sucks!

I'm not saying that just because this is a Microsoft website ... it' just not a piece of software that performs very well on the PC and to be honest it didn't exactly do a good job on the Mac either so don't make the mistake that did thinking that it would.

You would like after all this time they would have sorted out some of the niggles such as 'Processing file' after downloading a file taking ages ... but no, yet the Apple forums are full of disappointed customers.

I've disabled the iPhone backup because it takes unacceptably long, the last time took 6 hours! for an 8GB iPhone it's not good in comparison when I can backup my 3.5TB harddisk array to .... TAPE ... in half that time!

So why is it taking so long? Will looking at WireShark, iTunes is sending my backup to Apple at the sametime as I'm doing it and my upload is 800 Kb/s and uploading 8GB will take so watch out for that.

Is there an alternative to iTunes?

Re: Re: Re: Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

blowdart — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:27:51 GMT

Ah user error. Figures :p

Re: Re: Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

Minh — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:22:14 GMT

Uh oh... this could be the cause of my problems...

PaintDotNetSetup.exe - Corrupt Disk
The file system structure on the disk is corrupt and
unusable. Please run the Chkdsk utility on the volume C:

This is after I ran Chkdsk...

Reinstall?

Re: Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

Minh — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:09:14 GMT

what's with the pending bit? put it on flickr man...

I know I know... I saw the option and thought it might actually work...

iTunes works just fine here, Win7 RC x64.

Dang! Something's wrong w/ my install then...

If you have a non-touch iPod you can use Winamp. If you have a touch iPod and no songs with foreign characters, you can use Winamp mlipod.

Last time I looked for an iTunes alternative (boy do I want an iTunes alternative)... WinAmp interops w/ the iTune install... and required iTunes to be there first doesn't it... I could be mistaken...

Or install it in that XP mode thingy and see if the USB virtualization works

Intel CPU ID says YES

BIOS virt turned on YES

XP Mode: Still complain I don't have comaptible hardware

Re: Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

blowdart — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:53:53 GMT

Or install it in that XP mode thingy and see if the USB virtualization works

Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

Dorian Muthig — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:28:22 GMT

If you have a non-touch iPod you can use Winamp. If you have a touch iPod and no songs with foreign characters, you can use Winamp with mlipod.

Re: iTunes doesn't work on Win7 RC

Sven Groot — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:42:49 GMT

iTunes works just fine here, Win7 RC x64.