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PaoloM — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:04:35 GMT

No taunting the yellowhead!

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AndyC — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:07:27 GMT

My operating system avoids all this code bloat. Everything is just one big text file and you get to see it at random. Random!!!! Bet your operating systems can't do that. Random!!!!!!!

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RoyalSchrubber — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:26:39 GMT

I've figured it all out, I'll use one trick with zip files..

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PaoloM — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:05:36 GMT

HEY CHARLES!

Where did you put that <sarcasm> tag again? People need it! :)

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blowdart — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:29:21 GMT

Bigger than all of those combined?

That's a big ambition in code bloat :p

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Bass — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:24:35 GMT

Are you being serious? :)

I have some interesting ideas for operating systems but there is no way in hell I have the manpower to make them real.

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RoyalSchrubber — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:13:59 GMT

er, since your code is obviously much superior to everyone else's code I'm asking you if you would be interested to contribute to a project of mine. It's a new operating system and it's gonna be bigger than Windows, Linux and OS X combined..

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: http://plugins.codeplex.com

PaoloM — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:18:23 GMT

I don't have to do anything, but when people go around and spout nonsense claiming to be some kind of superhuman being with an array of knowledge that clearly is beyond the reach of the mere mortals working at Microsoft, well... let's start from something basic, like decent communication, ok?

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Bent Rasmussen — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:33:29 GMT

Hey, the guy literally asked for help. Dovella is in a league of his own - although there's one who surpasses even Dovella and that's peterwillcn. All in a good spirit :-D

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Bass — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:13:50 GMT

So are you going to correct Dovella's terrible grammar and spelling now? Or at least not attack people who do?

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PaoloM — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:04:54 GMT

This time quoting, so you don't go back and fix it, ok? :)

If you are thinking you are smart enouth, please help me spell anything you found incorrect. Show me you point, exactly.

QED.

Re: Re: http://plugins.codeplex.com

hack2roothotmai — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:55:04 GMT

Actually, yes

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hack2roothotmai — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:46:47 GMT

If you are thinking you are smart enouth, please help me spell anything you found incorrect. Show me you point, exactly.

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hack2roothotmai — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:44:27 GMT

Well, I'm happy to read it. Actually, I'm planning to make my project to be Mono compatible, AND use Mono.Addins for Unix and AppDomain itself for Windows.

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PaoloM — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:40:06 GMT

Proper spelling would be a wonderful starting point.

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hack2roothotmai — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:38:31 GMT

Ok, i'm willing to be sequential.

1st point: Full source code access.

2st point: Framework size.

3st point: It challenging to do the better product as do the guys at Microsoft.

In your opinion, why Linus Torvalds stated his own project formerly known as Linux Project, even he knows that Unix/Windows/QNX etc. OS-es already exists?

If you are asking me, why I'n doing so. I have the answer.

I'm tired, because nobody hires me, nobody supports me, nobody follows me. Do you really think that big fat cats in Microsoft will ever give me a chance to do the best i can do? No. Misrosoft is a suxx as a work place, because people like me are eaten for the breakfast by the corporate approach, so I'm smart enouth mice to understand it. Too many guys tries to be a one-man-at-the-top. Probably, I'm going to continue to develop software while working as system administrator in no-one-knows-it-company for the end of my life. On the other hand I can do better than Microsoft Teams and I will.

So, if you can't challenge the best of Microsoft teams for your own, give me chance to do this for you.

If you are from one ot the teams you mention it earlier (ParallelFx, MEF, etc), just be ready to know what i'm thinking about you.

I'm trying to prove that you can create by YOUR own code which can do the parallelization in several assemblies with 4-8K size, and it will work BETTER that in .NET FW 4.0 or ParallelFx. YOU can do better. YOU can make use of it. YOU. Just learn what is incapsulation, interfaces, inheritance, factory pattern, etc, exploring my code. It is a prove that YOU can do better.

Re: http://plugins.codeplex.com

Joe Chung — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:14:37 GMT

Could you state clearly why you are writing alternatives to MEF, ParallelFx, and XML serialization? Not that it matters for you, since self-edification is a worthwhile goal, but for others to be interested, you need incentive.

Re: http://plugins.codeplex.com

Bass — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:24:52 GMT

I use Mono.Addins :)

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stevo_ — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:24:14 GMT

The challenge is to make a powerful abstraction thats simple.. (balanced) its easy to make a simple abstraction thats simple.. you should try and find something more unique (and perhaps more simple (simple != useless) because MEF and concurrency / threading are big tasks to take on).

I've found naturally the things I've ended up building are things that have caused me the biggest development friction (this is natural), and I'm certainly not having friction points with ioc/di frameworks.. or at least if I want more from them, would require a sizable dev effort.

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Christian Liensberger — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:06:34 GMT

Don't make the error to set thin wrappers equal with simplicity! The Parallel FX has a simple API but still a lot of logic runs underneath. A simple API doesn't mean that there's no logic underneath. Sometimes thin wrappers are even more complicated because the user needs to deal with everything from the underlying system, whereas logic could hide that away!

In your case the API is simple but does not add much to the ThreadPool. In the case of the Parallel FX the API is simple as well but adds a lot more logic so that load balancing works out better and the caches of the cores are used more efficiently.

Why do you want to kiss me? :P

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hack2roothotmai — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:56:34 GMT

You are right! i prefer Keep It Stupid Simple. Frameworkers goes far from this idiom nowadays, that means, that i nedd to spend time trying to deal with comlicated APIs, more time when things are not going the right way you want it to, more time waiting for a next .NET version (just because nobody understands it better) tips and tricks, and so on.

In m opinion, if i can do complicated thing using things as simple as pissible, i.e. thin wrappers - this is a best, just because you can understang what beneath API is going on by simply lookin under the hood ;).

KISS ;)

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Christian Liensberger — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:45:07 GMT

Sure, but you could write a thin wrapper or a wrapper that adds a lot of logic. Your's is more like a thin wrapper (that does not add much on their own) and theirs is a wrapper that adds a lot of logic and algorithms.

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hack2roothotmai — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:41:44 GMT

Phankx, but, you know, all we (me, alone, and aall boys and girls form Parallel extensions) are doing well -

is just to write simple wrappers on wrappers for Win32 threads!!!

At least we are all frameworkers ;)

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Christian Liensberger — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:41:24 GMT

That's because you have a . in your nickname... The website seems to have problems with it.

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hack2roothotmai — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:37:41 GMT

Does anybody can look into my profile?

I've go these:

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