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Re: MS adjusts Win7 European Prices

sushovande — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:38:45 GMT

Can anyone tell me if I can upgrade from a Vista Home Premium to a Windows 7 Professional using the $99 pre-order?

Re: MS adjusts Win7 European Prices

peterwillcn — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:57:04 GMT

Where is the loss of money out there to earn back..heh

bbc news about microsoft http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7266629.stm

Re: Re: Re: MS adjusts Win7 European Prices

ZippyV — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:22:53 GMT

What's with the pre-orders? In some countries you can pre-order, in others it's not possible and in Japan they are already "sold out".

Re: Re: MS adjusts Win7 European Prices

contextfree — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:33:00 GMT

Speaking of which, I wanted to preorder W7 through the Microsoft Store so I could get a download and not have a box cluttering up either my apartment or a landfill, but the store wouldn't accept my order because "there was a problem with either your billing address or your credit card info", wonderfully helpful error reporting there, so I ended up ordering a physical copy through Amazon instead. :(

Re: Re: MS adjusts Win7 European Prices

LeoDavidson — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:25:16 GMT

How is being forced to spend 60% more a good deal if you only want the Upgrade version? (The UK £=$ pricing means we're spending 1.6x the amount. Our VAT rate is 15% so charging us 60% more is ridiculous.)

Sure, it's a good deal (for a very limited time) if you actually want the full, non-upgrade, retail version, but who does? If you already have a machine then you've almost certainly already got XP or Vista and an Upgrade is all you need. If you're buying a new machine then you'll either get Windows 7 thrown in or, if you're building it yourself, qualify for the OEM pricing (which hasn't been announced yet AFAIK).

Re: MS adjusts Win7 European Prices

androidi — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:00:49 GMT

AFAIK (atleast in Vista) you get a better legit deal if you take your computer to someone who has the install disc, install it without putting key in and then wait till the 'trial time' ends. At this point MS offers to sell it to you directly and since that leaves the retail and distributor out of the equation it should be a bit less. Extreme case I'm aware of the 'bit less' has been 'quite a bit less'.

The bad thing about this approach is that MS still insists sending you discs and packages instead of just selling the code so if you want avoid the retarded bit about transporting bytes in cardboard or plastic boxes then I guess Linux is the only option.

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blowdart — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:59:53 GMT

It's just the E version you can't upgrade. There is no upgrade version, at least at launch time.

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Ben Matthews — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:40:50 GMT

Can you not upgrade in the Full versions at all? I know it's possible in the RC, and I'd imagine it ought to be the same as that. Or is it just the E versions that can't upgrade?

Re: Re: Re: MS adjusts Win7 European Prices

blowdart — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:20:47 GMT

And it's reformat and reinstall time.

And it's a limited time offer. For all of two months from the release date (although to be fair maybe an upgrade version will appear after that)

Re: Re: MS adjusts Win7 European Prices

Bas — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:00:36 GMT

The fact that it's damned expensive.

Re: MS adjusts Win7 European Prices

Brandon Paddock — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:54:58 GMT

If you're in Europe you get the FULL version of Windows 7 for less than the Vista upgrade version... so what exactly is the complaint about?

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Gio — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:29:52 GMT

One more reason to use the English UI. Not a good one, I admit.

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Sven Groot — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:06:29 GMT

There's a few languages that get voice recognition, including German, but Dutch isn't among them, and in all cases, your UI language must match the language you're trying to use.

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Dorian Muthig — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:04:14 GMT

Voice recognition is working in German, too. At least it did with Vista, I don't think it won't work in 7 anymore since it's basically the same.

Re: Re: MS adjusts Win7 European Prices

stevo_ — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:52:07 GMT

Uh, thats based on the fact you probably prefer OS X.. whilst imacs look great, I can't stand that pantsy ass OS.. and I use it often.

Re: Re: MS adjusts Win7 European Prices

Gio — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:10:01 GMT

If you pay in US$ you won't be paying $400. Apple (and Adobe, and al.) all sell their software and hardware for twice as much in the EU compared to the US (sales taxes account for a difference of about 20% depending on the country).

Re: MS adjusts Win7 European Prices

Chadk — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:56:30 GMT

Not a chance I'm paying $400 for Windows 7, when I can get a Mac AND Leopard(Snow Leopard once that ships) for $800.

Did I also mention that Snow Leopard will be $29 for the upgrade version?

Re: Re: Re: Re: MS adjusts Win7 European Prices

Bas — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:36:46 GMT

Not only is the voice recognition English only, you can't even dictate in English if you have a non-English UI. It just refuses to run.

Didn't stop them from advertising that feature with Vista, though.

Re: Re: Re: MS adjusts Win7 European Prices

ZippyV — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:31:48 GMT

English only.

Re: Re: MS adjusts Win7 European Prices

W3bbo — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:46:59 GMT

In the UK, substantially more; on mainland Europe? not that much. You'll have better luck outside the EU though since the taxes might be lower. I'd give Apple Russia a try first.

ZippyV: what's that about voice recognition?

Re: MS adjusts Win7 European Prices

Bas — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:37:09 GMT

I'm getting pretty tired of this crap. I wonder how much Macs cost in Europe compared to the US?

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CKurt — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:11:44 GMT

My Media Center Guide works perfectly, but i guess you are talking about netflix and such?

Re: Re: MS adjusts Win7 European Prices

ZippyV — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:33:22 GMT

... for less features: no voice recognition, no media center content.

Re: MS adjusts Win7 European Prices

Gio — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:03:14 GMT

Thank you EU for trying to include another browser in the OS and forgetting that in general we pay 200% the price of software in the US...