Posted By: PaoloM | Nov 3rd @ 8:26 AM
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PaoloM
PaoloM
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So I did the retarded thing and put my audio cable into the socket and the case slipped and the tip of the audio plug got broken and now it's stuck in the socket.

 

This means no sound. This also means a good opportunity to look around and see what happened to the sound card market in the last 15 years...

 

User scenario: Paolo has a 2 speaker setup (Logitech Z4) and listens to a lot of music on his system. He does not game and doesn't watch movies on this machine. He would like a high quality *stereo* card that is as inexpensive as possible.

 

Looking here, anyone sees anything that would fit my needs? Smiley

Wow! I thought I was tight Wink. What's your budget?

Do you have onboard sound? I'd give it a try; you might be pleasantly surprised at how far the onboard solutions have come.

 

For discrete audio, any of the X-Fi series (or anything using the X-Fi chip, e.g. Auzentech) should suit you fine.

a new mobo may be less expensive than a new sound card Big Smile assuming you broke the integrated card's jack

> For discrete audio, any of the X-Fi series (or anything using the X-Fi chip, e.g. Auzentech) should suit you fine

 

isn't that useless, if you use an digital output?

exoteric
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I used to follow the Rightmark audio forum closely. These audio experts measure soundcard performance objectively.

 

http://audio.rightmark.org/

 

Speaking of soundcards, another alternative is to get a high quality external DAC accepting USB or FW input (or maybe even truly optical input for complete electrical separation between the noisy PC hardware and your audio system; which will of course require a an optical card of some sort. SPDIF & Toslink is more conventional.

 

Of course if you want to just jack a headset into the PC then you probably want a PC soundcard - or maybe something like this?

 

http://www.audiophileproducts.com/fubar3 

 

I don't own this and haven't reviewed it - but it shows a simple USB DAC - it's space efficient, uses asynchronous data buffering (USB protocol rather than streaming SPDIF with embedded clock signal and has a separate power supply, not drawing power from the same PSU as the PC). 

 

 

No special audio drivers required - the default Windows USB audio wave device driver can be used, it's built in and more or less any version of Windows, certainly Vista and 7 will detect and use the soundcard. Rely on Microsofts driver, not some 3rd party mish mash.

Any ole USB sound card should do the job for you pretty well... and for ~$5 on eBay it's hard to go wrong.

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"F*ed Up Beyond All Repair" is an odd acronym to use as a product name...

exoteric
exoteric
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It goes well with the foobar (second millenium edition) player

 

http://www.foobar2000.org/

 

foobar also supports WASAPI exclusive mode via an extension (these are called components); meaning it can take exclusive control over an audio source to avoid mixing in other audio sources; this doesn't really matter much in the post-XP world (meaning Vista, 7, aso) but it's still nice if you have some material you want to stream in a pure way without windows sound "interference".

Of course, if you're using digital out, then it doesn't matter what sound card you have: the receiver/digital speakers/DAC/whatever is doing the processing.

Dr. Cameron
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You don't need to change your soundcard: most recent integrated soundcards, especially HD audio soundcards, allow you to output audio from any of the audio jacks, even from the input jacks, indeed any jack can be reassigned. Just use the soundcard config tool and be happy.

 

P. S. Creative soundcards + Vista/Win7 = a real nightmare, even when you can manage at all to find compatible drivers.

exoteric
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I believe that has to do with Vista - (new driver model days) and probably not anymore as Creative has had some... .... .... time..... ... ... to adapt ... ... . ..

Your experience is typical of many after market X-FI owners. The problem lies in that the OEM version that comes with Dell machines (such as the Dell XPS 420) is actually different. Even though it says it is an X-FI XtremeGamer (Or whatever branding they use) it is indeed not the same as the X-FI XtremeGamer you would get from Newegg.

 

Windows Updates will try to install the drivers that are for the aftermarket newegg version. This causes many issues. The driver from Creatives website does not work either. One has to get the dell specific driver from http://support.dell.com

 

It is terribly confusing, and really painful to troubleshoot. This makes Creative and Microsoft look bad, when the real problem is Dell...or any other OEM who does the same thing.

 

If I were supreme chancellor, these are things I would change. So much FUD is spread because of specific situations that do not make sense at first.

Win7 found no drivers for my X-Fi (first-gen Fatal1ty model). But nothing a quick trip to creative.com didn't solve.

 

They got a bad reputation in the Vista days because it took them months to get a working driver out, and when they finally did it only had basic playback functionality. It was only about 6-8 months ago that they finally got all of the features working in Vista.

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