Mozilla, Opera Join Forces For New W3C Proposal | The Coffeehouse

Bogusrabin

"Hickson predicts that if a backwards-compatible open-standards alternative isn't created first, then 10 years from now the de facto Web application standard will be Microsoft's Avalon and the .NET framework."

Sad

http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3361141

sbc
GW R/Me

It's a pity that too many people don't code to standards and instead develop to Internet Explorer only, just because it has over 90% market share.

If a standard is written then it would be good if Microsoft at least offered the abilty to output code that was compliant with the standard. If it doesn't there will probably an even bigger fragmentation of the web - some pages will work in Windows only (or other platforms that are based on Microsoft technology), and some will work only if you have Mozilla / Opera.

It will not be good for anyone if Avalon and .NET have a monopoly (unless by some miracle, the specifications are opened up, royalty free for use in Open Source (GPL'd specifically) products - which Microsoft is vehemently against).

Jaz
From the depths of Wales I come

maybe the standards should be revised?

Shining Arcanine

Bogusrabin wrote:
"Hickson predicts that if a backwards-compatible open-standards alternative isn't created first, then 10 years from now the de facto Web application standard will be Microsoft's Avalon and the .NET framework."

http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3361141

This is absurd. Avalon is a Windows display technology and the .NET framework is only for application and server side programming. The open standards are what are sent to the browser and Microsoft is planning on presenting the technology they are developing to the W3C:

"Microsoft will also be presenting an overview of the Longhorn "Avalon" technology XAML (define) at the W3C workshop as well."

Opera and Mozilla are doing this just because they don't like Microsoft.

harumscarum
out of memory

I think my favorite part of this article is:

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In terms of community responses so far to the paper and the spec, in advance of the W3C workshop, however, Hickson admits that the feedback is less than he was expecting.
"It's rather amusing in that I got more feedback when I wrote a Web log posting about how to embed Flash into HTML using only 'object' elements than I did when I mentioned what Opera and Mozilla thought of the future of the Web," Hickson mused. "I think that rather demonstrates our point, though, that being compatible with Windows IE6 is what matters to authors today."

I am guessing he needs a visit from Captain Obvious.