Comment Feed for Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP (AdamKinney on Channel 9)

where can i download the sample files shown in this demo from?

BrownWarrior — Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:17:46 GMT

Hi,
This looks really interesting,
where can i download the sample files shown in this demo from?

thanks,
Duncan

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

intrader — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:33:17 GMT

I am very impressed by your presentation and the posibilities that WPF/E brings to the table. I have a need to run a C# script engine on the browser. Is this possible with your WPF/E product?

Thanks
intrader@aol.com

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

stresslessness — Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:07:51 GMT

If you want to observe the full power of WPF/E, then visit this site:

http://www.vista.si

Realistic Windows Vista simulation. And yes! it has even integrated (simulated of course) Windows Media Player.

Unfortunately, it is in Slovenian language, without translation, but you can get the feeling anyway... icons are quite self-explanatory.

Probably the first OS-like web site with WPF/E technology.

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

ErlyRisa — Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:23:15 GMT

Actually - Adobe and Mozilla are co-operating to change Flash's Actionscript language to ECMAscript and of course will then have it sitting outside of the swf therefore allowing the scripting of swf objects without it being compiled in the file.

-this of course will be highly advantageous to WPF/E - becuase anyone that has flash and an ECMAscript capable browser will be able to eXperience extended Flash browsing....

shame they are both proprietry and SVG isn't taking off as it should!

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

jcorra — Thu, 28 Dec 2006 21:14:56 GMT

Jeroen Ritmeijer wrote:
Sorry for playing the Devil's Advocate here, but is there any reason why WPF/E should be used when a perfectly mature and viable alternative (read Macromedia / Adobe Flash) has been available for years?

I think if you had ever tried to use Flash for any type of serious work involving data access and display as opposed to strictly static/visual presentation you would definitely not be referring to Flash as "perfectly mature and viable."

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

Jeroen Ritmeijer — Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:05:11 GMT

Sorry for playing the Devil's Advocate here, but is there any reason why WPF/E should be used when a perfectly mature and viable alternative (read Macromedia / Adobe Flash) has been available for years?

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

Ernie Booth — Thu, 07 Dec 2006 19:53:42 GMT

Fayez AlMutairi wrote:
TextBlock to test the display of Arabic text, WPF/E was rendering the text incorrectly as if it is rendering the text from left to right while Arabic text should be render from right to left. This same behavior is true for Hebrew too which is also a right-to-left language.

We will have support for these, we didn't have time to do that in our current CTP.

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

Fayez AlMutairi — Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:32:09 GMT

I have downloaded the WPF/E CTP & SDK, I played with them and have noticed that WPF/E does not fully support Unicode, as I use a TextBlock to test the display of Arabic text, WPF/E was rendering the text incorrectly as if it is rendering the text from left to right while Arabic text should be render from right to left. This same behavior is true for Hebrew too which is also a right-to-left language.

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

John Gault — Wed, 06 Dec 2006 19:43:02 GMT

great! So what about the controls. Why not support textbox and button? I'm really scratching my head on that one so please tell me this is not a design decision.

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

will — Wed, 06 Dec 2006 04:08:39 GMT

John Gault wrote:

3) .NET integration: is this a myth or will we see a lightwieght runtime incorporated into WPFE? In the Mike Harsh video he used C# to change opacity if I remember correctly. has this been abandoned or is it still in play. Also, will this be a strictly windows technology (the CLR Integration aspect) or are you planning to package a runtime for MAC as well.

According to a blog post by Scott Guthrie, the managed runtime still to come.

"We'll also be providing "WPF/E" integration with .NET managed code next year."

In the meantime, take a look at the following post by Nikhil Kothari - http://www.nikhilk.net/WPFEAndScriptSharp.aspx

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

will — Wed, 06 Dec 2006 03:56:22 GMT

DiegoV wrote:
When I try to install the Visual Studio Template from the SDK, it says that it depends of the Web Application Projects add ins. I have Visual Studio 2005 SP1 beta, which contains a new version of Web Application Projects. But it does not work.

Sadly I cannot setup a separate computer for this.

Hi DeigoV, the Web Application Projects add in is available here:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/asp.net/aa336618.aspx

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

jasonsh — Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:37:46 GMT

I never realized there was so much magic happening in web browsers!

This is really cool. I can't wait until this truly works everywhere and I can start to throw away all of my HTML/JavaScript knowledge.

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

DiegoV — Tue, 05 Dec 2006 18:17:07 GMT

When I try to install the Visual Studio Template from the SDK, it says that it depends of the Web Application Projects add ins. I have Visual Studio 2005 SP1 beta, which contains a new version of Web Application Projects. But it does not work.

Sadly I cannot setup a separate computer for this.

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

John Gault — Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:17:43 GMT

Hi,
Great video, tool, and overall vision! Played with it yesterday a lot. Seems to work in all the advertised environemnts but just curious on a number of things.
1) MMS: WPFE does not seem to support that protocol at all. I saw all the video sample you did but I guess this technology does not work for streaming.
2) Controls: There appear to be no controls whatsoever in WPFE; meaning everything has to be done from scratch everytime. I mean there isn't even a textbox! What's up with that? Will it change? I mean it's great and all as far an animation but that puts this technology right down there with the first version of Flash! Furthermore, there are a lot of us who love the web but HATE javascript. Even though you did a great job of standardizing, I still want my c# especially if i need complex coding to get any work done.
3) .NET integration: is this a myth or will we see a lightwieght runtime incorporated into WPFE? In the Mike Harsh video he used C# to change opacity if I remember correctly. has this been abandoned or is it still in play. Also, will this be a strictly windows technology (the CLR Integration aspect) or are you planning to package a runtime for MAC as well.

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

Chris Pietschmann — Tue, 05 Dec 2006 14:46:39 GMT

I've been wondering if you guys were going to enable XAML for web application development. This is awesome! I can't wait to start playing with it. The Firefox and Mac support make it 100% more likely for adoption than ActiveX was.

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

ben2004uk — Tue, 05 Dec 2006 10:13:44 GMT

No, its totally platform independent. Even down to them reencoding WMV so they are supported on the Mac without Flip4WMV installed.

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

William Stacey — Tue, 05 Dec 2006 04:23:29 GMT

Is .Net required on the client side? tia

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

will — Tue, 05 Dec 2006 02:36:00 GMT

will wrote:
Can anyone actually download the WPF/E SDK?

I've tried a few times, but it just keeps saying "The page cannot be found".

I've downloaded the WPF/E CTP for Windows, and that works fine. Just unable to download the SDK.

Nevermind, it works now!

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

will — Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:15:10 GMT

Can anyone actually download the WPF/E SDK?

I've tried a few times, but it just keeps saying "The page cannot be found".

I've downloaded the WPF/E CTP for Windows, and that works fine. Just unable to download the SDK.

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

Martin Ennemoser — Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:50:52 GMT

Boomport wrote:
Hard to call it everywhere when you don't support unix/linux flavors

I guess Win/Mac cover about 99% of the desktop market, so it's almost everywhere. But maybe the new ally Novell volunteers to contribute a Linux version at some point in the future.

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

irascian — Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:38:16 GMT

Not sure why the video length is listed as over an hour (1:03:50) when it's actually just under 37 minutes.

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

ben2004uk — Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:29:49 GMT

Give them a chance :) It would have been nice if firefox on linux supported it (as it supports it on windows) but I guess technically there is a lot of difference.

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

Minh — Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:59:25 GMT

Is Baseball's "World Series" includes every team in the world? :)

What about "Miss Universe"?

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

Boomport — Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:43:40 GMT

Hard to call it everywhere when you don't support unix/linux flavors:O

Re: Joe Stegman talks about the "WPF/E" CTP

MikeHarsh — Mon, 04 Dec 2006 20:55:41 GMT

The VS template .MSI uses the Web Application Projects add-in for VS 2005. For more information and installing WAP, go here http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnvs05/html/WAP.asp