http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/C9/images/feedimage.pnghttp://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Charles/Don-Box-Paul-Vick-and-Chris-Anderson-Introducing-M/Don Box, Paul Vick and Chris Anderson: Introducing Mhttp://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Charles/Don-Box-Paul-Vick-and-Chris-Anderson-Introducing-M/en-usSat, 08 Nov 2008 03:17:30 GMTSat, 08 Nov 2008 03:17:30 GMTEvNet (EvNet, Version=1.0.3608.3122, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null)Minh,<BR><BR>On the first point, we plan to fully integrate M into VS before we ship.&nbsp; <BR><BR>On the second point, the Oslo SDK (which is how you get M) is a free download.&nbsp; <BR><BR>DB<BR>http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Charles/Don-Box-Paul-Vick-and-Chris-Anderson-Introducing-M/?CommentID=441724Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:17:30 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Charles/Don-Box-Paul-Vick-and-Chris-Anderson-Introducing-M/?CommentID=4417240http://channel9.msdn.com/441724/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0Minh,On the first point, we plan to fully integrate M into VS before we ship.&nbsp; On the second point, the Oslo SDK (which is how you get M) is a free download.&nbsp; DBDon Box0http://channel9.msdn.com/441724/Trackback.aspx<P>I always screw-up that reply thing...&nbsp; Should be:&nbsp; @Don Box:</P> <P>Might have a problem with the name.<BR><BR>Although in lesser use now, 'M' is still an ISO-Standard language:&nbsp;ANSI X11.1-1995 and&nbsp;ISO/IEC 11756:1999<BR><BR><A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUMPS">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUMPS</A><BR><BR>It is still sold &amp; supported (under various disguises)&nbsp;by Intersystems: &nbsp;<A href="http://www.intersystems.com/cache/index.html">http://www.intersystems.com/cache/index.html</A><BR><BR>It's one of the earliest dynamic type languages, and although a bit clunky by today's standards, still has some features that modern languages struggle to match.<BR><BR>I recall doing a bunch of work in this (and the earlier MUMPS variants) way back when.</P>http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Charles/Don-Box-Paul-Vick-and-Chris-Anderson-Introducing-M/?CommentID=437185Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:31:06 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Charles/Don-Box-Paul-Vick-and-Chris-Anderson-Introducing-M/?CommentID=4371850http://channel9.msdn.com/437185/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0I always screw-up that reply thing...&nbsp; Should be:&nbsp; @Don Box: Might have a problem with the name.Although in lesser use now, 'M' is still an ISO-Standard language:&nbsp;ANSI X11.1-1995 and&nbsp;ISO/IEC 11756:1999http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUMPSIt is still sold &amp; supported (under&#8230;Elmer0http://channel9.msdn.com/437185/Trackback.aspxTwo questions:<br><br>1) How long before M can crank out something that's a first-class citizen in Visual Studio? You know, w/ debugging, design-time stuff...<br><br>2) I think a perfect DSL is a scripting language, say... for a game. "Mario follows bad guy # 3" kinda thing.... Do I get M as a free product if I buy Oslo?<br>http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Charles/Don-Box-Paul-Vick-and-Chris-Anderson-Introducing-M/?CommentID=437097Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:35:37 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Charles/Don-Box-Paul-Vick-and-Chris-Anderson-Introducing-M/?CommentID=4370970http://channel9.msdn.com/437097/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0Two questions:1) How long before M can crank out something that's a first-class citizen in Visual Studio? You know, w/ debugging, design-time stuff...2) I think a perfect DSL is a scripting language, say... for a game. "Mario follows bad guy # 3" kinda thing.... Do I get M as a free product if I buy Oslo?Minh0http://channel9.msdn.com/437097/Trackback.aspx<P>The underlying parsing runtime uses&nbsp;<A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLR_parser">GLR</A> (Generalized LR).<BR><BR>The M grammar compiler produces structured data that drive that runtime.<BR><BR><BR><BR></P>http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Charles/Don-Box-Paul-Vick-and-Chris-Anderson-Introducing-M/?CommentID=437088Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:54:03 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Charles/Don-Box-Paul-Vick-and-Chris-Anderson-Introducing-M/?CommentID=4370880http://channel9.msdn.com/437088/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0The underlying parsing runtime uses&nbsp;GLR (Generalized LR).The M grammar compiler produces structured data that drive that runtime.Don Box0http://channel9.msdn.com/437088/Trackback.aspxoh dear, yet another yacc...<br><br>what kind of grammars does it support. what kind of parsers does it generate?<br>http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Charles/Don-Box-Paul-Vick-and-Chris-Anderson-Introducing-M/?CommentID=437079Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:41:13 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Charles/Don-Box-Paul-Vick-and-Chris-Anderson-Introducing-M/?CommentID=4370790http://channel9.msdn.com/437079/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0oh dear, yet another yacc...what kind of grammars does it support. what kind of parsers does it generate?piersh0http://channel9.msdn.com/437079/Trackback.aspxYou can find what you need to get started here: <A href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/oslo" target=_blank>http://msdn.microsoft.com/oslo<BR></A><BR>Play!<BR>Chttp://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Charles/Don-Box-Paul-Vick-and-Chris-Anderson-Introducing-M/?CommentID=436990Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:27:03 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Charles/Don-Box-Paul-Vick-and-Chris-Anderson-Introducing-M/?CommentID=4369900http://channel9.msdn.com/436990/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0You can find what you need to get started here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/osloPlay!CCharles0http://channel9.msdn.com/436990/Trackback.aspx<P>Sounds interesting.&nbsp; Is there a link yet to the ctp bits of M?</P>http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Charles/Don-Box-Paul-Vick-and-Chris-Anderson-Introducing-M/?CommentID=436862Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:24:23 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Charles/Don-Box-Paul-Vick-and-Chris-Anderson-Introducing-M/?CommentID=4368620http://channel9.msdn.com/436862/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0Sounds interesting.&nbsp; Is there a link yet to the ctp bits of M?William Stacey0http://channel9.msdn.com/436862/Trackback.aspx