IE7: CSS Support? | Charles

BrianLL

Great video! It's good to see Microsoft finally moving into the world of CSS and XHTML standard support. Web designers all over thank you.

Rowan
Look, no errors.

CSS fixes in IE7 haven't been much really, they've only fixed the most requested bugs, but haven't bothered to fix all the other little bugs that are just as bad (and missing features). Now there are new CSS bugs in IE7 that we have to watch out for. I'd rather keep working with IE6 for another year to allow enough time for IE7 to get with the standards support of today.

IE7 is a fix for IE6, and IE8 will be a fix for IE7.

pikatung

Rowan wrote:
CSS fixes in IE7 haven't been much really, they've only fixed the most requested bugs, but haven't bothered to fix all the other little bugs that are just as bad (and missing features). Now there are new CSS bugs in IE7 that we have to watch out for. I'd rather keep working with IE6 for another year to allow enough time for IE7 to get with the standards support of today.

IE7 is a fix for IE6, and IE8 will be a fix for IE7.

You just described Firefox, Opera, Safari, and every other major broswer too.

mabster

Are any of those demo pages available online somewhere? Particularly the "virtual earth 'lens'" one and the "eagle/shadow" one. They were awesome.

littleguru
<3 Seattle

I always see this zen garden example, but it seems to be non-public. Is there a way to get the example, to do own tests with it? I mean the CSS (of the video) used to mod zen garden.

Sven Groot
My name has 9 letters. Coincidence? I think not...

Rowan wrote:
Now there are new CSS bugs in IE7 that we have to watch out for.

Weird. I've got this bug filed and created my own example page for it. However, in my example to bug also occurs in IE6, while in yours it does not (I haven't tested yours with IE7). Here's mine: http://www.ookii.org/misc/position_relative_scroll_bug/bug.html

Kryptos
Backup People!

littleguru wrote:
I always see this zen garden example, but it seems to be non-public. Is there a way to get the example, to do own tests with it? I mean the CSS (of the video) used to mod zen garden.

Is this what you mean?

http://www.csszengarden.com/

schrepfler
CMB

I'd have two more questions. First is wheter controls like the drop down still hover over div's and second is are you already writing code for CSS3 in order to support if from day one or will we have to wait years to adopt it (we'd love columns support Smiley

and round borders as well)?

Also it'd be very nice to know the MS stance on supporting SVG integrated in the browser (just open this with latest firefox) and MathML support?

That said we'd like to see MathML support on the TabletPC power pack if anyone is listening. Ink + Math = Millions of students taking notes that have some meaning and that buy TabletPC's. Hello, is anyone listening?

DMassy
Driving!

schrepfler wrote:
I'd have two more questions. First is wheter controls like the drop down still hover over div's and second is are you already writing code for CSS3 in order to support if from day one or will we have to wait years to adopt it (we'd love columns support and round borders as well)?

Also it'd be very nice to know the MS stance on supporting SVG integrated in the browser (just open this with latest firefox) and MathML support?

That said we'd like to see MathML support on the TabletPC power pack if anyone is listening. Ink + Math = Millions of students taking notes that have some meaning and that buy TabletPC's. Hello, is anyone listening?

Hi schrepfler,
First question - Yes there is a new implementation of the select element in IE7 See http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/01/17/514076.aspx This means it will honor the z-index set rather than ignore it and render on top of other elements as it did previously.

Second question - We've committed to regular and frequent releases of IE moving forward and some CSS3 is already being implemented such as selector work which was logical to do while we were doing CSS2 selector work.

On MathML support there is an excellent extension available called MathPlayer developed by Design Science experts in Math and MathML.

Thanks
-Dave