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Re: Inside .NET 4: Meet the BCL Team

Allan Lindqvist — Fri, 29 May 2009 09:16:53 GMT

oh i have another question, will [blend] Behaviors make it into the bcl? they are super useful and i really think they belong there :)

Re: Inside .NET 4: Meet the BCL Team

Maximilian Haru Raditya — Thu, 28 May 2009 01:09:46 GMT

Thanks all for the details! I appreciate it.

Re: Inside .NET 4: Meet the BCL Team

Charles — Sun, 24 May 2009 18:30:05 GMT

The interviewees are:

Josh Free
Brian Grunkemeyer
Matt Ellis
Justin Van Patten
Melitta Andersen
Matthew Greig
Kim Hamilton
Katy King

Re: Re: Re: Inside .NET 4: Meet the BCL Team

Joe Chung — Sun, 24 May 2009 11:38:22 GMT

Your ?'s should be Josh Free (http://blogs.msdn.com/bclteam/archive/2007/05/31/string-compare-string-equals-josh-free.aspx) and Matthew Greig (http://blogs.msdn.com/bclteam/archive/2007/05/29/bcl-refresher-floating-point-types-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-inbar-gazit-matthew-greig.aspx).

Re: Re: Inside .NET 4: Meet the BCL Team

alanjmcf — Sun, 24 May 2009 10:49:03 GMT

Hey Maximilian, here's my educated guess at names. :-)

Mellita Anderson, PM
http://blogs.msdn.com/bclteam/archive/2009/02/23/preview-of-code-contract-tools-now-available-melitta-andersen.aspx
Brian Grunkemeyer, Dev
http://blogs.msdn.com/bclteam/archive/2006/10/17/clr-behavior-on-outofmemoryexceptions-brian-grunkemeyer.aspx
Matt Ellis, Dev
http://blogs.msdn.com/bclteam/archive/2007/07/19/customizing-the-behavior-of-system-diagnostics-debug-assert-matt-ellis.aspx
? Josh Regan, Dev
Justin Van Patten, PM
http://blogs.msdn.com/bclteam/archive/2008/05/21/net-framework-client-profile-justin-van-patten.aspx
Kim Hamilton, Dev
http://blogs.msdn.com/bclteam/archive/2009/02/19/in-depth-how-net-managed-services-interact-with-the-servicecontrolmanager-scm-kim-hamilton.aspx
? Matt Gregg, Test
Katy King, Test
http://blogs.msdn.com/bclteam/archive/2005/04/06/405993.aspx

Re: Inside .NET 4: Meet the BCL Team

Maximilian Haru Raditya — Sat, 23 May 2009 11:00:25 GMT

Hi Charles, I can't hear clearly who they are and what their roles, either they spoke too soft or too fast. Sorry, I'm not a native speaker in English. I think it's better to have them written-tagged.

I like about what being said by someone (the guy with glasses next to Brian Grunkemeyer) about the importance of product feedback through Connect. I think feedback is one of the most important basic principle in engineering, and of course for helping evolving the product. BTW, do they use SQM (Software Quality Metric) in tracking feedback on API usage?

Thanks for this!

Re: Re: Inside .NET 4: Meet the BCL Team

Justin Van Patten — Fri, 22 May 2009 11:19:35 GMT

We're planning to launch the CodePlex site later this summer. Keep an eye on the BCL team blog for the launch announcement.

Re: Re: Inside .NET 4: Meet the BCL Team

Justin Van Patten — Fri, 22 May 2009 11:17:06 GMT

Complex didn't make it in Beta 1 but it should be in the next preview release.

Re: Re: Inside .NET 4: Meet the BCL Team

Joe Chung — Fri, 22 May 2009 10:33:33 GMT

I wish they would isolate the Microsoft Win32-specific libraries from the OS-agnostic libraries. Core CLR/Silverlight is a good start, but it would be nice if this were done in the Full and Client CLR as well. That way you can have Microsoft.WinXP.*, Microsoft.Win2003.*, Microsoft.WinVista.*, Microsoft.Win2008, Microsoft.Win7.*, and Microsoft.Win2008R2.* libraries with managed code wrappers to native OS calls specific to particular Windows versions. A bit like what the Mono folks did for their OS-specific extensions. But come up with a better naming convention than I did; mine is merely illustrative and not recommended.

Re: Inside .NET 4: Meet the BCL Team

Allan Lindqvist — Fri, 22 May 2009 09:48:01 GMT

great stuff :)

was the codeplex site launched or was it going to be launched? a link would be great :)

also w00t for pex and chess mentions :) will those make it to the framework someday do you think? BCL4 seems slightly optimistic but maybe BCL5? :)

Re: Inside .NET 4: Meet the BCL Team

Joe Chung — Fri, 22 May 2009 06:18:10 GMT

So happy to see Directory.EnumerateFiles in the .NET 4.0 BCL! Many thanks!

By the way, you really should add BigInteger overloads to the arithmetic LINQ extension methods in .NET 4.0. System.Numerics.Extensions?

Also, I don't see the Complex type in System.Numerics in Beta 1. Is it slated to be added in a later beta?

Re: Inside .NET 4: Meet the BCL Team

yoyoing — Fri, 22 May 2009 05:21:03 GMT

Hey guys, keep up the good work!

Re: Inside .NET 4: Meet the BCL Team

ChrisStepaniuk — Fri, 22 May 2009 00:29:22 GMT

Charles,

Wow, what an awesome interview. It was nice to see the age variance of people on the BCL team. The covariance and contravariance, I jumped out of my chair and scared the person in the next office when I heard this. I now know what it's called, and thank the BCL team for solving this. It has been such a pain point for me.

The only thing I would add is i wish the BCL team kept more pace with the Windows team in terms of feature support.

Re: Inside .NET 4: Meet the BCL Team

vesuvius — Thu, 21 May 2009 19:59:48 GMT

These are some of my favorite people, hope there is stuff on code-contracts in the interview, downloading....