Comment Feed for JAOO 2007: Bob Martin - Life in the Universe, Beautiful Code and Programming Discipline (Charles on Channel 9)

Re: JAOO 2007: Bob Martin - Life in the Universe, Beautiful Code and Programming Discipline

Bernal — Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:32:09 GMT

Responding to some of the comments here...

Writing clean code doesn't have to mean that you spend a lot of time writing and re-writing code to make it clean. The idea that deadlines and budgets mean you have to forego clean code is wrong. If you take the time to learn "how" to write clean code and you practice doing it, when crunch time comes you'll be able to write clean code as fast as you might write sloppy code. The catch is that most programmers don't practice the "art of coding" with the goal of creating something clean and elegent and instead only code when "on-the-clock" and under pressure to finish what they're working on.

Re: JAOO 2007: Bob Martin - Life in the Universe, Beautiful Code and Programming Discipline

DannyJ — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:58:19 GMT

Great interview - Totally agree with the need to write nice and clean code, less time debugging, less time figuring out what the heck some else's class/module is supposed to do, etc... Although I agree that in reality it doesn't always happen as bosses don't appreciate the shear amount of effort that goes into a software project - they just want it done as quickly as possible just so they can make money / look good in front of their boss etc...

One thing I like to do is look at all the software projects I've done in the past and group together all of the common functionality and then create nice clean class wrappers that handle the functionality that all of the previous solutions used.

Re: JAOO 2007: Bob Martin - Life in the Universe, Beautiful Code and Programming Discipline

JChung2006 — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 05:10:56 GMT

I'm sorry, but "write code that doesn't suck" is worthless advice. Better advice would be "how to convince the folks who pay for code that beautiful code is worth paying for."

Re: JAOO 2007: Bob Martin - Life in the Universe, Beautiful Code and Programming Discipline

jsampsonPC — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:42:22 GMT

Nice video. Might I suggest one of those fancy wind-cancellation mics for outdoor interviews though? :)

Re: JAOO 2007: Bob Martin - Life in the Universe, Beautiful Code and Programming Discipline

Charles — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:30:49 GMT

Chadk wrote:
Isnt his name Robert Martin?

Good interview tho

That's his full name, yes. People call him Bob, which is a common knickname for Robert.
C

Re: JAOO 2007: Bob Martin - Life in the Universe, Beautiful Code and Programming Discipline

Chadk — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:19:48 GMT

Isnt his name Robert Martin?

Good interview tho :)

Re: JAOO 2007: Bob Martin - Life in the Universe, Beautiful Code and Programming Discipline

raymond — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:11:25 GMT

Great interview Charles.

"Uncle" Bob is an agile Java kind of guy.

http://www.objectmentor.com/omTeam/martin_r.html

May 2007

Agile SkypeCast 2007 - Bob Martin - What is Agile?

http://agiletoolkit.libsyn.com/index.php?post_category=Agile%20SkypeCast

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Re: JAOO 2007: Bob Martin - Life in the Universe, Beautiful Code and Programming Discipline

Chadk — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:20:06 GMT

Ah at last. Jaoo videos.

Robert Martin did a fantastic key note, looking forward to see this video, after i have seen the one with kresten :)