Posted By: Charles | Feb 18th, 2008 @ 11:39 AM | 16,831 Views | 23 Comments
More from Lang.NET 2008:

Miguel de Icaza
is well known for his work on Mono, the open source implementation of .NET. He and his band of merry developers have written a Silverlight implementation that runs on Mono called Moonlight. They really are a creative and talented bunch. I wanted to chat with him about why he is so adamant about free software and why he chooses to implement OSS versions of our .NET technologies. Miguel is very smart. He's also very passionate about software.

You've met Dragos Manolescu before. He's one of Volta people (the Live Labs side of the team) and is a computer scientist who has experience in the open source world and an interesting perspective on the tensions between profit-making business and free software given his years in the consulting business where he managed both proprietary software and open source accounts.

This is a very interesting and casual conversation (there is no battling here, no arguing, but there is debate, of course... Also, it's broad and not a deep dive into Moonlight or Mono). We don't go too deep into the Open Source conundrum (check out Port25 for more heady OSS stuff, from Microsoft's perspective)

Enjoy!

Low res version here.
Media Downloads:
Rating:
1
0
littleguru
littleguru
<3 Seattle
It was about time that Miguel went on Channel 9. I'm looking forward to this video. Downloading right now. Awesome!!!
Xaero_Vincent
Xaero_Vincent
Sexy me
I was kind of hoping that the discussion would have been a tad more technical.

I would have liked to have known a timeline for Moonlight development and what features in Silverlight spec it will support.

One thing to point out, though:

Miguel is right about people's perception of Microsoft. I think people's negative connotation towards Microsoft stems ultimately from buisness practices and not the technology behind their products. For the most part, Microsoft has proved it can now build decent, reliable products.

The open source community is overally critical of Microsoft because of their market position and influence in the industry, which has made it astronomically challenging for FOSS technologies to a gain a foothold and adoption. Most notably, however, is Microsoft's IP threat to FOSS community and its ability to inflict a mortal blow; for that reason, Microsoft has positioned themself as the corporate villian to FOSS--second only to SCO, who have already litigated.
CplCarrot
CplCarrot
Dust Puppy
A great video.
Miguel in his considered and pragmatic approach does more to promote open source than any "beer" loving troll could ever do.
I do hope we can get more from him.
Good catch Charles
littleguru
littleguru
<3 Seattle
CplCarrot wrote:
Miguel in his considered and pragmatic approach does more to promote open source than any "beer" loving troll could ever do.
I do hope we can get more from him.
Good catch Charles


++ awesome discussion!
RichardRudek
RichardRudek
So what do you expect for nothin'... :P
THIS IS OFF TOPIC.

I've been trying to wait patiently for the low res link to come live, but no. I'm now downloading the full resolution one.

But seriously, are you guys keeping track of how many people are downloading the low res one even though it's not well highlighted ?

I'd suggest that if you swapped the links around (made the low res then main, with the high res being the exception) you would see the numbers change. Often, the hi-res is just way over the top, considering the content.

It's not that I don't have the bandwidth. I just hate having to manage the disk space so often, and it just smacks of egotism (or should that be pomposity)... Expressionless

mtz
mtz

Miguel seemed to be trying hard to not mentioning free software ..open source is a development model and microsoft have some open sourced pieces ..free software is a political movement and that is what microsoft as a propietary softwre company has a problem with ideology, not model ..

his explanation of those 4 things(rights/freedoms or whatever you want to call them) ..would have been better explained with "free software" and not "open source" ...this is why he had a hard time differentiating microsoft's open source with mono's or free software's open source ...

free software and open source share the same development model but differs in ideology ..
Kevin Daly
Kevin Daly
Of course it *looks* like my nick is just my name, but actually, well, it's just my name.
I've just downloaded the WMA file: Miguel is always worth hearing from.

As for the video, sadly it seems that Channel9 has recently moved to a A Not Realistically Available Outside The US model - remember guys, in most of the world we're stuck with download caps. Whatever happened to those nice manageable 200mb files?
It's not like this apsires to be great art or anything, I'd rather have bandwidth than video quality.
Microsoft Communities