Steve Teixeira and Bill Dunlap: Visual C++ Today and Tomorrow | Charles

mwirth

haven't seen the video yet, but i need to reply right away!

Thanks for this interview on vc++ ! the "quiet" aura surrounding c++ at microsoft has concerned me for quite some time.. actually since the advent of the CLI languages. i think it's a top priority to not only cheer the c#,vb.net crowd but also to make the native c++ people feel at home. this might have been handled in a non-optimal way in the last few years.

i haven't posted in a long time .. my frustration with CLI centric evangelism being part of the reason. but i need to thank Charles and the team for not forgetting about c++ which is what keeps us alive under the hood, imo.

Cheers,
Martin

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08:06: ".. moving forward we will increase our emphasis on native code development."

made me spontaneously perform the typical bowler's "score a strike" - move.

the whole video seems to present a 100% wonderful direction for vc++. this is making me really happy.

hypermatt

Jeez finally! I'm worried that it may be to late, this news would been great 1-2 years ago but now the benefits of c# is getting to be overwhelming. Seriously things like the ide not even supporting the updated windows controls was a nightmare, I remember how much time we wasted on projects just manually changing styles so controls looked right. Maybee if they got WPF/E (since its a small runtime) fully integrated, I would start to consider c++ again for desktop apps. Really C++ main benefit now is that it doesn't require a 20mb redistrib.

nightski

7k+ new unmanaged APIs? Awesome! I have used a few but I had no idea there were that many. Is there a place available that lists these new APIs (most or all of them)?

Thanks.

megame
(Under destruction...)

Thank you!

Can't wait for the next version of MSC++.

Charles
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nightski wrote:

7k+ new unmanaged APIs? Awesome! I have used a few but I had no idea there were that many. Is there a place available that lists these new APIs (most or all of them)?

Thanks.

I pulled that number out of thin air. Probably closer to 5K. I am actively trying to track down where they are all exposed. Stay tuned.
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Charles
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Re New APIs: Look here.
C

nightski

Thanks for the link!

Charles
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Note that, strangely, the new Shell APIs are absent from the list. MSDN is aware of this bug and working on it... (There's a lot of them...)
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ScaleOvenStove
They have the Internet on computers now?

I think they forgot to mention one reason why native code development is still an option for so many people: Microsoft failed to deploy the .NET Framework to XP as a required update. For people who want to target 90%+ of the market, without relying on distributing the .NET Framework, there really isn't an option to use managed code.

They finally got it right with Vista, but now it will be 3-5 years before saturation.