Tim Sneath - Inside Windows Vista Printing | Charles

intelman

Seeing all these wonderful and spectacular features in Windows Vista makes Windows XP seem just that much worse. There were many limitations I didn't know about. I can't wait for beta 2 of Windows Vista, perhaps then it will be a workable main OS. Overall the improvements made sound wonderful!

Andrew Webber FX

I've never been so excited about someone talking about printing Big Smile

PS: love the line "so buying windows vista will make your printing better". how many product teams can say that without asking developers to use a new API

Manip

When can we expect to see a "blank page" filter? And perhaps a large print job/duplicate pages print job warning so administrators can stop uses wasting paper?

Minh
WOOH! WOOH!

Is it safe to say that XPS is a subset of the WPF (sans animations & stuff) expressed via XML w/ a few paper-specific stuff? Say, the markup for "Hello world" would be identical in XAML and XPS?

or to put it another way, XPS is just the WPF states frozen in time?

Naikrovek

this seems a lot like what postscript can do to me. you can do just about anything in postscript, including things you wouldn't expect a printer to do like raytracing.

postscript (for those who don't know) is a document description language, and it is a superset of PDF. (PDF is postscript where all the processing is already done)

I've been very pro-microsoft lately but this seems like a reinvention of the wheel.

LarryOsterman

Andrew Webber FX wrote:
I've never been so excited about someone talking about printing
PS: love the line "so buying windows vista will make your printing better". how many product teams can say that without asking developers to use a new API

/me raises hand Smiley

It's interesting. The thing that surprises me is that there's no XPS logo program.

So I'm in CompUSA looking at a wall full of printers. Some of them will print unbelievably cool documents because they support XPS natively. Others don't do nearly as well because they don't support XPS.

But I (the customer) have absolutely no way of differentiating between the two printers, because there's no logo program.

That seems "surprising" to me.

Massif
aim stupidly high, expect to fail often.

Now... I haven't watched the video - so this may be a feature already; but when are we going to be able to set the printing system to print the pages in reverse order? Printers (like most inkjets) which dump the pages face up on top of each other always need someone to go through the pages and reverse the order... can't the printing system just reverse the page order already?

Oh, and if that's a feature already I apologise... and if not I want 5%. Wink

PeterF
Early Adopter

With the filter pipeline in XPS drivers however it would become simpler to do this for any application from inside the driver.

Reversing page order is something the application has to do at the moment.

However, the downside from reversing page order in the driver is that the printer doesn't receive anything until the last page has been spooled.

A better (mechanical) solution is a smarter design of the output tray.

Peter

Ps. Nice to see the people we met at DevCon. Special thanks go to John for showing us the way to the Irish pub in Seattle Smiley

Andrew Webber FX

LarryOsterman wrote:

Andrew Webber FX wrote: I've never been so excited about someone talking about printing
PS: love the line "so buying windows vista will make your printing better". how many product teams can say that without asking developers to use a new API

/me raises hand

It's interesting. The thing that surprises me is that there's no XPS logo program.

So I'm in CompUSA looking at a wall full of printers. Some of them will print unbelievably cool documents because they support XPS natively. Others don't do nearly as well because they don't support XPS.

But I (the customer) have absolutely no way of differentiating between the two printers, because there's no logo program.

That seems "surprising" to me.

I have to completly agree, i mean imagine going out to buy a new TV for my xbox360 and feeling gutted when my new $1000 purchase doesnt support HD [C]