Omar Shahine - Windows Live Mail | Duncan Mackenzie

BryanF

Am I the only one having an awful time hearing this? I downloaded the video and turned all the sounds settings up to max, but even then I'm only getting relatively quiet audio on the right side of my headphones.

EDIT: Nevermind -- low batteries were the culprit. Embarassed

C#Developer

Nice.

limalicas
Happily daunted, always

I've been using Kahuna since it first went to beta, and despite the occasional hiccups, I've never regretted it. (Certainly never felt like opting out!)

It's really good to see an update video - even if it is a month old! It's ironic that, as this video goes out on Channel 9, Windows Live Mail (beta) has spent the last six hours or so being a complete arse! This is after spending week with the welcome greeting telling us that they've 'hit a few bumps' with their latest build! lol!

They're probably rolling-out some updates or some-such-magic as I type. In any case, I'm loving it.

Big Smile

LaBomba
Summer

M6 it seems is being rolled back out. Depends on which Bay you are i guess...i've got it on one live mail addy but not the other.

It just seems to be faster and more stable. Visually more appealing and you love the search.

Taking shape nicely.

Edit: Wouldn't you just love to work on the Live mail team? Seems like a great product to work on. Smiley

Zeus
Why is the caption missing??

I have been using WLM Beta since march, although there is not much mail that comes through my Hotmail address.

M6 is definately better than M5, but they are soooo far off if they want to match GMail in user friendlyness, responsiveness and features. The WLM GUI just does not feel right with me for some reason.

It sort of feels like (to me) that there has not been a designer on the team, just developers making things work right ... the design comes later (although that would be a strange way of doing things).

Michael Griffiths
Fatalism.

Windows Live Mail (we need a shorter name!) is good.

But....

My primary web mail client is Gmail (desktop is Outlook 2003). I use Gmail for instant everywhere-access, and download to Outlook.

The problem is that Hotmail does not have feature parity with Gmail.

There are a few key areas where Hotmail fails:

1). POP3/IMAP access
2). Powerful filters
3). Related Email
4). "Active Search"

Gmail's Conversation feature is somewhat indispensbile to me. I understand that Hotmail will not have it, and that's a problem for me.

Hotmail also doesn't have Google's rather useful little sidebar. Not the sponsored ads - but the "Map this Location," "Track this Package," and so on. I recently read about Active Search for WLM Desktop Client, but nothing for the web based interface.

Rowan
Look, no errors.

In my experience of using Hotmail and Live Mail I honestly don't think there's been any improvement in terms of convenience and UI design.

Even with my browser at the size of 1024x768 everything on the page seems to be squashed so much that everything has a scrollbar, even when there's only 5 emails in my inbox.

I don't know why there's 5 different ways to delete an email, providing more and more ways to do one thing doesn't necessarily make it easier, it just means there's more ways to do it.

I could go on, but there's no point using hotmail/live when Gmail does it better. Honestly I don't even use Gmail's interface much, I just POP it to Thunderbird along with all my other email accounts.

Did I mention Live Mail is slow? Oh and there's more than two browsers in existence. While I'm at it, it's really stupid to automatically select the first email when you navigate to folders. Live Mail is a pain to use, just like Hotmail.

pringles
sup?

i only have 2 quams with Windows Live Mail:
1. i can't select alot of messages at once and detete/move them all
2. the junk filter isn't what it should be.

LaBomba
Summer

pringles wrote:
1. i can't select alot of messages at once and detete/move them all

ctrl+click, doesn't work for you?