HanselMinutes on 9 - #2 - Weapons and Debugging the .NET Runtime

Posted By: Rory | Apr 3rd, 2007 @ 10:03 AM | 24,079 Views | 16 Comments
Very few Channel 9 videos begin with the firing of a trebuchet.

This is one of those videos.

Scott and I barged in on Vance Morrison, an architect on the .NET Runtime team, and spent some quality time with him assaulting a wall (we won - the wall didn't even put up a fight) and then talking about Vance's job, which turns out to be quite the challenge.

Vance didn't have much time, so Scott and I were very thankful for the few minutes we got, but Scott was able to dig right down to the interesting stuff quickly. Scott's good at that Smiley

There are more HanselMinutes on 9 videos coming. It seems people dig these things, so we're going to release a few more from the first session, and then put together another set, most likely at Mix.

Thanks again to Scott Hanselman for doing this, and to Carl Franklin for letting us use the "HanselMinutes" name.
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#Apr 3rd, 2007 @ 5:00 PM
RichardRudek
RichardRudek
So what do you expect for nothin'... :P
For anyone that's interested in what vance is (un)doing, LarryOsterman recently explained it bit when he talked about [Frame Pointer Ommision].

That's what he meant by that "EBP" stuff.
#Apr 3rd, 2007 @ 5:15 PM
JChung2006
JChung2006
rhm wrote:
I'd actually be gutted to have one of those cubes because it would mean that an idea I came up with was now locked up and nobody else, no other company or individual, could make use of that idea even if they had a better use for it than I did.

Sure they could... if they licensed the technology from you.
#Apr 3rd, 2007 @ 7:26 PM
staceyw
staceyw
Before C# there was darkness...

Nice.  Glad to see Vance on c9.  We need more VM.

#Apr 4th, 2007 @ 12:58 AM
Lundberg
Lundberg
Nice video Smiley Didn't understand much though... yet. Wink
#Apr 4th, 2007 @ 9:25 AM
swiatecki
swiatecki
.net - love it
Nice video guys, keep up the good work Smiley Big Smile
#Apr 4th, 2007 @ 3:09 PM
tourist
tourist

Scott is probably more familiar with ETW than he himself realizes. In Hanselminutes podcast #52 he talks in detail about end-to-end tracing. I can't be %100 sure, but I gotta believe that the framework ultimately calls EventWriteTransfer() from the ETW API to do its thing there.

I've been working with ETW a lot recently (in C code) (and XML for the manifests, of course). But I haven't seen that there is any facility for a "new feature" with "the ability to crawl the stacks" as Vance puts it, in ETW. I would greatly appreciate any pointers to more info on that topic. I read Osterman's blog entry but that didn't clarify this point for me.

#Apr 8th, 2007 @ 5:14 PM
ZippyV
ZippyV
Fired Up
Who has the most cubes at Microsoft and what did he build with it?
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