Gordon Bell and Jim Gemmell - A look into Microsoft's Bay Area Research Center, Part I | TheChannel9Team

Intrigued
Hi

Interesting segment!

*Thumbs up*

DaveNoderer
DaveNoderer

Good to see that Gordon Bell is still active and thriving!

Besides the terrabytes of data... there is the problem of keeping that ever growing set of information moving into future tools and technologies while keeping the formats and links in place at an affordable price for the general public over hundreds of years.

AQ
One does not thank logic

Those full-wall whiteboards are becoming the indespensible design tool de rigeur...

At first I couldn't see it..I mean why would anyone want to persist al that data? My perception was that Bush had the visionary genius in mind when developing his Memex. Like a Buckminister Fuller type, someone who looks at a leaf and sees a new design for a fusion reactor, not an archive of Scoble's droolfest at the new Apple Store (sorry!)

But that real-estate demo with the overlap between multimedia and time definitely clicked.

Okay so text is easy..once its tokenized, indexing and retrieval is a snap.

How do we begin to think about indexing audio and video? Is it even possible?

Anyway, these MSR vids are fantastic! Keep em comin!

GeoffC
Picture of a retired stiff

Many thanks for this video - good to see something of the MyLifebits work - and to see Gordon Bell again.

I know that I'm getting old when I read that Scoble needs to point out who Gordon Bell is for the sake of the younger generation, and when I hear on the video that Charles did not seem to have heard of Vannevar Bush and the Memex... Smiley

Minh
WOOH! WOOH!

Oh, that Gordon Bell.

http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail371.html

androidi

Does the video shake horizontally or is it me.. Well the black bars are gone though, thats good Smiley

edit: Guess it was just that the video guy was so excited.. The shaking goes away after a while.

androidi

Scoble talks about (around 26-27 min) how people can't do links to the middle of the channel 9 videos. Well I argue that the technology is already here, just needs some refining.

Suppose we have a player plugin that is integrated with the browser. Now when I am the one who decides to watch the whole hour long episode and see interesting segment, I just do what I do currently already, stop the video (I haven't finished it yet) and come talk about it. But with the plugin I can mark the interesting spots in the stream and the browser extension allows me to create a special hyperlink with the timecode. It could also be possible to gather these different links from other people to a central metadata file associated with the video. This way the video author would have people watching the video "do the editing", by giving the interesting timecode segments.

So the tech for most of the problems discussed is here already, just need to code and spread it!

Regarding the clipping of videos, I hate that. The early Channel 9 videos with 5x 1 minute segments just plain sck, as you need a lot of clicking to watch the whole thing and most of the time you want to watch the whole and comment only on some short segments.

androidi

It should also be possible to allow people watch to say a live TV broadcast or keynote presentation in the net, in such manner that everyone watching it are approximately in sync and can add their text and audio/video commentary which comes available in realtime to other who watch it. Kind of like commenting a movie with friends in the hometheatre or whatever.. Technically possible to do, just need to integrate it in the player that comes with the OS so that everyone would have it.

Course it would also be nice to record the commentary to some repository so others who watch it later get it too.

So practically MS should integrate parts of the webcast tech to the generic player tech.

Its funny that while the discussion in the video came almost to touch the Google TV, where you can do searches in to the latest TV broadcasts cause of the subtitling, but never mentioned that. Basicly the people who watch the video should be creating the "subtitling" by creating commentary etc.

Minh
WOOH! WOOH!

androidi wrote:
But with the plugin I can mark the interesting spots in the stream and the browser extension allows me to create a special hyperlink with the timecode. It could also be possible to gather these different links from other people to a central metadata file associated with the video. This way the video author would have people watching the video "do the editing", by giving the interesting timecode segments.

I think it's a server-side problem, not client-side. If you say, I want the 22nd minute of this video, the server must know how to get there & start streaming. I know RealMedia does this. I'm pretty sure, Windows Media Server does this. It'd be nice to be able to specified starting point & length as a hyperlink (I don't know if they do or not). So, the solution is there. Maybe MS should proliferate Media Server, too.