Posted By: The Channel 9 Team | Dec 13th, 2004 @ 10:26 AM | 218,859 Views | 72 Comments
"Wicked," is how interviewer Robert Scoble reacted when he saw the MSN Toolbar Suite demoed. Today Microsoft announced the MSN Toolbar Suite beta. You can get it now at http://beta.toolbar.msn.com.

What does it do?

Desktop Search!

The Toolbar Suite team took some time out of their busy schedule last week and here they answer a ton of questions about the team and the product. Here the Silicon Valley team demonstrates the new MSN Toolbar Suite and answers Channel 9's questions.

There are actually two interviews. In the other video, linked here, you'll meet the Redmond team. This is a long one, but we wanted you to get as complete a view of this great new product. Oh, yeah, it's a free download.

Pictured in this video is Bubba Murarka (on the left) and Marek Gorecki (the geek).
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tmaffin wrote:

What is the reg hack the geek typed in to clear the jelly beans?


It took me a bit of playing around but here's how to do it.  Find this folder in your registry:

   HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MSN Apps\DB

Next, add a DWORD value with the name of "Buttons" and change the value of "Buttons" to "1".  On your toolbar, uncheck the MSN Deskbar to clear it from your toolbar then re-check it to add it again without the buttons.
Took 2hrs to index, but I love it. Nice job guys
How does this compare to Copernic Desktop Search?
Does it index music (file names and ID3 ifo)?
Does it index images?
Does it index videos?
Does it index Firefox Internet cache and history? 
IE Internet cache and history?  
Can you configure the file types to index (locations or full text)? 
Does index content of Word docs and PDF?
Does it have a preview window for full-text searches?
Does it highlight search terms in the preview window?
Shannon wrote:
How does this compare to Copernic Desktop Search?
Does it index music (file names and ID3 ifo)? Yes
Does it index images? Names and file property info.
Does it index videos? Names and file property info.
Does it index Firefox Internet cache and history? No internet cache is indexed.
IE Internet cache and history? Again, no.
Can you configure the file types to index (locations or full text)? Locations, yes, specific files, no.
Does index content of Word docs and PDF? I believe they said it indexed files that it understood how to read (pretty sure office documents are included in that)
Does it have a preview window for full-text searches?
Does it highlight search terms in the preview window?


I don't meant to sound rude but most of these questions were answered in the video.  I've answered the ones I remember above.  I would have answered more of these questions but I'm having a bit of trouble getting the index to work on my machine.
Shannon wrote:
How does this compare to Copernic Desktop Search?
Does it index music (file names and ID3 ifo)?
Does it index images?
Does it index videos?
Does it index Firefox Internet cache and history? 
IE Internet cache and history?  
Can you configure the file types to index (locations or full text)? 
Does index content of Word docs and PDF?
Does it have a preview window for full-text searches?
Does it highlight search terms in the preview window?


So far, I've found that it does index media files (at least WMA, but I'm pretty sure others as well).  However it won't do so if you have shmedia.dll unloaded (as Explorer won't be able to access that information either).

It also indexes Word documents.  And a user above said that Indexing Service plugins work, including one for PDF files.

So I'd imagine it's quite customizeable at that level.

As for browsing history, I don't think it does it yet.  But I'll keep looking.
scobleizer
scobleizer
I'm the video guy
Hey, I have my own list of questions: http://zmarties.blogspot.com/2004/12/desktop-search-reviewers-guide.html and http://radio.weblogs.com/0001011/2004/12/12.html#a8876

Smiley

But, yes, it indexes music.
Yes, it does images.
Yes, it does videos.
No, it does not go into your cache, either Firefox or IE (as far as I understand).
You can build iFilters for other datatypes if you're a developer. Not sure what you're asking there.
Yes, it indexes content of Word docs and PDFs.
It has a preview window.
Yes, it previews.
Yes, it highlights.
What is the Reg hack that he did to remove the buttons? He did it too fast to catch what he was doing. Thanks for any information
scobleizer
scobleizer
I'm the video guy
I'm trying to get them to give the reg hack to us.
scobleizer wrote:

You can build iFilters for other datatypes if you're a developer. Not sure what you're asking there.


Copernic Desktop Search allows you to specify what file types you want indexed as text so I have a full text index of all the source code on my machine (all html, C#, vb, asp, css, js, etc, etc, etc).   It also allows you to indicate what file types you want indexed by name and properties only (like .zip, .dll, .exe, etc, that I want to know the location of.)

Looks like MS has a real product here (unlike Google's Desktop Search), I just don't have the 52 minutes to watch the video or couple hours to install and index, so I won't be able to really test it until at least tomorrow.
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